xxxHOLiC Chapter 213 Discussion

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  • #106
i agree that it was a shitty ending, but come on people, that's no reason to drop the whole score! i mean the manga still rocked and i liked as much as i liked tsubasa. but what the hell's up with all the mangakas recently!? alot have been really lazy and ruining their stories..



but still, disappointing

and now i'll never be able to read it and look at doumeki without crying...
 
  • #107
Well that was the weirdest ending to a manga I have ever read, Tsubasa's was much more fulfilling. it all started so light-hearted and silly

but then it got so dreary much like how tsubasa got edgier... can't help but think Holic was being held back by tsubasa.

I did enjoy reading holic though, just thought the story telling was very indirect? unlike Tsubasa's which was quite direct, Oh well enough comparing.



Some of the less interesting chapters did had some good take-aways but it was at its best

when it was focusing on the characters which was halfway into story, after a certain character disappeared

it felt like it most of the chapters before this one didn't really do much they just didn't want to end it yet but ended up rushing

I wish they explained some things better cuz I felt like I could barely understand it.



I forgot about the zashiki warashi but it seems Watanuki will be forever alone with some company from Doumeki's descendants?

At the very least this was open ended enough that I can continue shipping Watanuki and Doumeki...

(or his descendant??? atleast they get along LOL nothing beats the original though)



Somewhere between a 7 and an 8/10 from me, its not too bad but requires and acquired taste to fully appreciate it.

Also weird how the official release ends at chapter 109, wonder if delrey/kodansha cut chapters or they were really poor at explaining

things but I doubt that its more likely they combined chapters cuz some were noticeably longer

and if they cut things I think fans would have noticed by now.

 
  • #108
Well... What can I say... it was a what the fuck ending... In both ways... bad and good way... I seriously think it's a screwed up ending, but since it's CLAMP me needs to readjust my parameters of enjoyment and rating... Ambiguous... it was again an ambiguous ending and that makes me so pissed, but also we got clues and IMAGES of what's the end of this journey... a long one nonetheless.



What I liked. Time passing without being noticed. A new Doumeki. The feeling of being freed and the need to move on. I really liked that and especially the feeling of moving on and freedom... ata should stop mourning and enjoy life, just as Zombie Yuuko did while she was alive.... Quite true... Man this story is so tragic :(



What I disliked: The feeling of being rushed... The sudden change of pace and pretty much the big difference between Rou and the other part of xXxHOLiC Monthly serialisations and the time between releases really killed HOLiC....



But really pissed me off was the fact that the so awaited promised ending that would tie up the whole TRC/xXxH universe never came... Is this really the closure for this universe? I don't think so... there's no clue in how TRC really ended.... And we got an open ending here with xXxHOLiC... that's just not right. That means CLAMP got lazy and ended their works in just random ways....



At least the meaning and power of the egg is clear to me... it's a tool to make Watanuki forget completely about Yuuko. Pretty much a tool to make Watanuki a normal person... A tool to get rid of all his powers... The dreams.... and Yuuko... Oh btw, did someone notice that Wata used Clow's seal to invoke his powers and make that cage for the Butterfly? That was cool



What really surprised me is the fact that the Dou we knew and cared for is not there anymore, but the Dou that's keeping Wata company is no other than a descendant of Shizuka Doumeki... what the heck... I really didn't see that coming... But I guess some clues were laid down here and there for us to notice before this last chapter... This Doumeki didn't really behaved like the one we knew... He was strange... plus... He crossed his arms immediately... something that the other one would never ever do in his life....



In a sense... it was an awful ending, but it's a satisfying one since this means that we will never really see again Yuuko, and that now Wata is finally powerful enough to move on and successfully be the rightful store owner.... But where's Mokona... and Maru and Moro?



And so that's it? No Epilogue.... maybe we'll see one... I hope that answers some lose ties that were left here and there... or will they do some random epilogue that tells us nothing... I hope we get a epilogue with the people of the Universe....



Signs,

Green
 
  • #109
just because an ending makes you sad or feel pain does not mean that it is a bad ending?



I personally thought it was a beautifully-romantic (yes, *somewhat* tragic) ending for Watanuki and Yuko - the eternal longing and desire to meet again is so tragically romantic (and very in-keeping with themes from both xxxHOLIC AND Tsubasa); it's beautiful
 
  • #110
Yeah this ending was pretty weak, and more then likely all of the original cast is dead which must suck for Watanuki. I'm so conflicted on how to view this series as a whole, the start was amazing and the done in one's are usually top-notch but post Tsubasa ending this manga just didn't have the same magic.
 
  • #111
You don't understand...

I think CLAMP will make an epilogue chapter, like they did in Tsubasa (and If you'll check you'll see that before the epilogue chapter in Tsubasa nothing was understandable and the epilogue was the real ending and it was made supremely well)

and that epilogue will be the real and amazing ending of one of the best manga CLAMP have made-xxxHOLiC
 
  • #112
xxxHOLic Was one of my all time favorite series. And yet... the ending... ALG;ASDLFJ ACK. I'M SO DISAPPOINTED, CLAMP. REALLY? THIS WAS SUCH AN AMAZING SERIES AND YOU JUST. LIAGHASLFJF NO.



THERE WAS NO CLOSURE. ABSOLUTELY NO CLOSURE. WHAT THE HELL. ;___;



That was so unsatisfying to the point that I had to drop the score for the series. Damn, I didn't even like the ending of the manga for Eyeshield but still gave it a ten because it was so good. But xxxHOLiC... ARGH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT IF THEY GAVE A BETTER ENDING.
 
  • #113
What…the….hell….?  What did I just read?  A crappy ending that ruined a great experience, that’s what.  Instantly dropped from a 9 to 7, might even drop it lower.  I can’t stand it when I invest my time in a series, only to be fed a piece of crap for an ending.



Sigh.  I feel like I kind of “get” it when people say the ending is fitting, but it’s so unsatisfying for the readers.  I guess the creators don’t need to care about what fans think, they have the right to take the story in whatever direction they want to, it’s their creation.  But at the same time, I wonder how it feels to just destroy your fans’ hopes and dreams like that.  They knew fans were attached to these characters and just gave them terrible endings with hardly any conclusions/closure.  Poor Watanuki, and wtf at that not being the same Doumeki…



I used to think Hikaru no Go had the worst manga ending I’d ever read in my life and nothing could compare, but I was wrong.  This is worse!   At least for HikaGo, the overall experience made me keep my ranking at 10, but for this, once Watanuki took over the shop the series became incredibly boring.  And with that ending....I've seriously decided to not pick up any other CLAMP series until they are finished so I can read opinions about their endings!!!
 
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