Naruto Chapter 681 Discussion

ssjokg said:
excalibur977436 said:
ssjokg said:
You KNOW this will end with a talk no jutsu.



Whats wrong with that?It is lame beyond belief when every main villain, who actually isnt the real villain, is defeated by the hypocrisy of a teenager.



Well except Orochimaru....He just changed sides for no real reason at all thanks to Kishi, just like Sasuke did

That isn;t the case for hidan and kakuzo. Its pretty subjective regarding whether its good or bad. I personally like that they resolve it by talking. Seems to add more to it rather that having them having being defeated in a typical shounen  way.



WE don't know much about orochimaru's objective so we cant conclude whether he really changed sides or not. Still a mystery. Regarding sasuke, there are ALOT of reasons. Especially in the hokage falshback.



One thing i like about Kishimoto is that he dosent spoon feed everything. He leaves it up to the readers to put in the pieces and complete the puzzle.

And there we go. Another fucking twist. This is just too overwhelming to take in all at once......



Cognitive overload. No comment to give on this chapter as of now.

Kaimon said:
Remember when this was a series about a kid who wanted to gain the respect of his peers?

Good times. Good times..

Kishi did say 2014 is it's last year but damn I feel like we're just enetering a mini-chapter again, not unsatisfied tho.



With all the unexpected stuff going down I sort of hope Hagoromo joins in.

sullynathan said:
The main villain (Orochimaru) turned out to not be the main villain. Turns out the main villain was (Pain) who actually wasn’t the real villain (it was Nagato) who turned out not to be the main villain. It was actually the idiot (Tobi) who turned out not to be an idiot and was the real threat of the series (Obito) who turned out to not be the main villain but was a servant to the real villain (Madara) who was fighting because he read crap on a stone just recently was betrayed the real main villain (Black Zetsu) who turns out to be the son and manipulated all of history for his mother the actual real real real villain who is also the Juubi (Kaguya)



Makes perfect sense, right? I honestly did not know how to even BEGIN to react to this horrid ass-pull. I just... I just don't know! I mean things have been dragged out and going downhill for a while, but this! I want to keep enjoying this series I've been following for YEARS, but with this kind of ending...

And then the wonderful deus ex machina of "an all-powerful, SECRET technique?!" comes next week. Sweet.



JizzyHitler said:
you know i was too bothered by this black zetsu kaguya crap that i kind of forgot how stupid the entirety of this series' antagonists were. Seeing it put in lamens terms really puts that in perspective.

This manga is endless. Every time he explains something he introduces new things to be explained. Now, for example, we don't know where Kaguya comes from, why Black Zetsu looks this way, why he is still alive. There are some other minor things that have to be answered, like what is the purpose of Sasuke, Orochimaru and Yamato. Did Tenten avoid the moon jutsu? if so why?



Anyway the author doesn't have to finish the manga right now. If he wants to make more, he can. But it seems it's not going anywhere... Perhaps I'm wrong.

I personally think Kishimoto is a genius, and yes I believe he had a lot of this planned out from the start. Just god damn all these plot twists and deceptions, never really seen anything like it in any show, except maybe Lost. Naruto is the Lost of anime pretty much, probably why I love it so much. I still think we haven't heard the whole truth, since we know virtually nothing about Kaguya herself, so I'm looking forward to more mind bending twists. Props to Kishi having Black Zetsu be the true mastermind behind everything.

Which school did Kishimoto graduate? This is genius work!