Bleach Chapter 584 Discussion
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- #91
Ichigo has never been one to want to kill someone, infact I'm pretty sure outside of fillers the only person he has sort of directly killed was Kugo, and with a right reason to be honest, he wasn't a splendid person. And when "he" inadvertently killed Ulquiorra he didn't seem massively happy about it, a usually recurring theme in most Anime's where the protagonist is usually pure of heart and is never fond of killing someone. Otherwise whats the difference between them and villains?
Ichigo is not the kind of person to kill people. That's just not his character. It goes against his principles to kill anyone, including enemies. Although, Ginjo is an exception. Ichigo was really pissed that one time.
Doesn't make it any less retarded. That shounen cliche is just exploited too much, it doesn't make sense to fight someone and tell them to dodge your attacks. What is even the point. Just stay still and let them beat you up.
HavocParker said:
She DID dodge, but at the very last second, and so only lost her arm. I'm not sure if it's true, but it WOULD make sense, since both Ichigo's words and what ended up happening to Candice's body after avoiding most of the attack seem to imply that Candice would have been WRECKED had she not dodged.
There's nothing to indicate that she dodged, even more - it looks like she is right in the middle of the attack.
And the result?
A CLEANLY cut off arm. Just look at it:
http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/584/bleach-5000249.jpg
She doesn't even look affected by that attack other than the arm, her clothes intact, no bruises/scars/burns, nothing (and it's clearly an explosion, there is smoke around it during the attack, and then behind her after the attack.
There's no arguing here, it's simply retarded.
- #93
A not great chapter as per the usual, I hope Kubo steps it up soon otherwise this "final arc" will be a dud.
- #96
ichii_1 said:
I said except the chapter length :(
I said nothing about the chapter length, the story pacing is horrible because of its structure, not chapter length.
ichii_1 said:
If you don't like the story your problem :O
That's the problem, I DO like the story and the universe, I'm just amazed at how horribly it's been developed lately. Nothing can justify that awful storytelling that Kubo is serving us right now.
ichii_1 said:
What fan service? lol, what's wrong with good looking women?
Go read some real ecchi <3
Gee, nothing wrong with good looking women, but if it's the only redeeming quality they have, then that's boring. It's not like I have anything against big breasted characters, but my god, if that's all they have to offer, I'll pass. Even the plump Kirio Hikifune that looked unique and interesting had to turn into enermously-boobed chick, because otherwise none of the teenage fans would fap to her, right? That would be such a horrible missed opportunity (not that it's the first time something like this happened, eh, Nelliel?)
I'm seriously past the age where I need to have boobs thrown in everywhere to enjoy something. When I want boobs, I go get the boobs.
ichii_1 said:
Underdeveloped, one dimensional? did you even read the manga? have you not seen how Ichigo and the gang has grown since the beginning? you probably think the full bring arc is pointless too (it isn't by the way) :O and even the sternritters that already died have development (Mask, As Nodt, Gremmy)
No, I don't think Fullbringer arc was pointless, I actually think it was one of the more interesting arcs in the story. That doesn't change the fact that the whole Bleach cast (aside from a few exceptions) is extremely boring, predictable, one-dimensional and completely flavorless. I won't even touch the new characters, as they obviously didn't have enough time to "shine". Not surprised though, because when can you make time for new characters, when you have an assload of old ones that you didn't even flesh out properly.
Oh, right, revealing bankais, shikais and other powers doesn't really count as developing a character.
ichii_1 said:
The powerups were explained, if you can't except them, it's your problem again.
No, wrong again. I DO expect them. That's the problem. It's gotten so absurdly repetitive that I DO expect EVERY power up. You know your story is shit when every problem can be solved by a power up, explained or not. Remember, Final Getsuga Tenshou was explained too. Still doesn't make it less of an asspull, as it was conveniently brought to light few chapters before it was needed. So much for an explanation.
ichii_1 said:
Write a story without any of these so called "cliches" whatsoever, go ahead, you'll find it is quite impossible.
Cliches are meant to be used, but used CORRECTLY and SKILLFULLY. Kubo doesn't have any of that, he just throws them around like a seizuring octopus. I seriously recommend you to broaden your horizons and read some other manga and comics, perhaps even read a book?
And sure, I get it, it's a shounen, it's not supposed to be complicated and all that, but come on, even a shounen has the limits to acceptable retardation, Bleach surpassed those long ago.
Shut up and let me enjoy my manga, your dummy
- #97
The fact that he actually shouted at her to dodge it brings interesting implications. Does Ichigo simply want to tip the scales and beat the quincies or does he simply mean to beat Juha and put an end to a war for both sides? He IS a walking talking example that shinigami and quincies can live at peace.
Kazuhiko_Yukimi said:
MC117 said:
Damn for a moment there I thought that light was aizen making his return, how badass would it be to see both aizen and ichigo fight as a team, I have a feeling that aizen might be able to solo these quincies, but still...
The chapter wasn't that great tbh.
Not a bad idea at all.
Aizen did use his zanpakuto on Yhwach so I am sure it will effect him in some way soon.
I think Aizen has too much pride to team up with Ichigo, I expect something more sinister will happen.
He already affected him. Aizen's effect was that YHWH spent way longer in his cell than he believed to