Wannabiteme said:
Sure it's kind of fanservice. But my point was that someone can "achieve" bankai in much more less time than 10 years.
no dude, it's really just all fan service :/
Rukia got her bankai thru nothing but plotkai and BS shortcuts that can make no sense at all except foooor: OVER 9000 deus ex powerups!!
Every other shinigami, in the Bleach universe, has WORKED for their bankai... and that 10 year rule was solid as it's been clearly said that the only ppl to ever bypass this rule were Ichigo and Urahara cause they used Urahara's special TRAINING method, look at that, it's still training... and that's my real problem... Kubo just did this Rukia bankai out of the fcking blue cause it's last arc, so fck it eh :/
I mean, there was ALOT of risk involved with Urahara's method and the only real reason Ichigo could do it was cause he's special and all that (main character).... in no way is Rukia anywhere near that 'special' or any shit like that. It has NEVER once been shown or said that she is in some way a great prodigy, or that she's got some special blood in her, or anything like that.... if you fans remember, she ain't originally a Kuchiki, she was adopted~
sigh, I mean, I could slightly stomach the whole dual Nature of Renji Zanpaktou. Rukia's Shikai upgrade was a cool way of giving a character that was sidelined in many battles for most of manga a new power. However, byakuya's whole [paraphrasing it] "Even amongst the noble houses for one to master Bankai, it only ever happens once in many generations" but hey look at this really unremarkable fighter who hasn't even mastered her shikai and give her Bankai, yay! She wasn't even a real member of a royal house, again, adopted -_-
So sure, fangasm over the bankai, I'm just calling out the total BS of her getting it on a silver platter from the RG.
Wannabiteme said:
Do you remember that Byakuya "learned" to use his safe zone (place where his blade won't do damages)? Was it shikai or bankai? I don't remember.
The point is you cannot be master in your shikai or bankai. You can be good "enough" so your zanpakutou tells you his/her "shikai's name" and "bankai's name". Ok.. but...
Byakuya was never shown to have suddenly learned of his safe zone, he always knew of that safe zone and it was only just revealed to us in the Fullbring arc.
And wtf do u mean u can't master your kai? wtf is "good enough"?
You're gonna tell me shinigami like Yamamoto or Unohana did not master their zan!? What... they were only "good enough" after all those years and still had room for improvement?
Look, the general point of a bankai is that when a shinigami fully masters his shikai, his/her next level of power is the bankai. So when they go on and train and all that, their goal to aim for is now: bankai, and not mastering shikai as that mastery is complete... can't just suddenly achieve bankai out of the blue when u still don't even know your shikai's full power or the extent of all it's abilities! You must master your shikai for bankai to present itself to you... case in point(s), all the shinigami we have seen with bankai have NEVER once been shown to gain a new shikai ability or tech cause they have ALL already mastered their shikai.
Now mastering bankai is a whole other matter.
Wannabiteme said:
Zero Squad don't defy rules. After all, they have created lots of stuffs in bleach verse. They create "rules".
Shinigami learns stuffs, but from who? They learn it from other shinigamis. Does their knowledge comes from source (aka creator(s) - Zero squad, God[not Yucha bach] )? I guess 99% stuffs they have discovered on they own not from source. They don't know almost nothing about Zero squad place nor about Zero squad.
It may be "bankai for all" and they may not achieve that by hard training but by "science". Sudden "bankai for all" is not so good and interesting, but they are "reasonable" as for Bleachverse. You may like it or not.
well, i got nothing more to say here.... seems you actually like all this deus ex BS that kubo has come up with in regards to the RG seeing he's too lazy to fcking stick to a coherent universe.... w/e... Kubo's plan to give the more popular characters bankai for no reason other than moar sales seems to be working well seeing u all fangasm so hard over this shit while hiding behind the: "RG CAN DO IT ALLLLL" -_-
Wannabitem said:
Well, if you don't find logic in Bleach, why don't you just read wiki or some similar website?
....you do know the Bleach wiki gets all it's info from the fcking manga.... don't get what you're trying to say here :/ If there is any logic to find in the wiki, it's gonna have to come from the manga.
lul, a quote from Einstein.... just wow dude... ~_~ I'd give you a gold star but I've seemed to have misplaced it :<
WannabitemSure said:
In Zero squad's place (was it royal palace? ) they won't learn ALL stuffs. They will learn only the most important stuffs.
The amount of knowledge Shinigami (Rukia, Ichigo, Byakuya ... and that was all I guess) got was just very small and very well explained.
WELL, real glad that you know everything that happened with the RG and rukia and all that stuffssss seeing as Kubo has yet to show anything to the rest of us.... I can really only come up with theories based of the knowledge and rules we have from the manga (and it ALL points to deus ex BS) as opposed to your HARD facts.
Maybe share what else you know? OR WAIT, how about sharing Kubo's number!? o:
