Bleach Chapter 519 Discussion

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                        Ok, chapter I guess. Though I can't think of the any other positives than Rukia's ass x). I like they view of how Aizen is simply evil, no more of this "anti-hero" portrayal. I'm glad Ichigo hangs out with the Yakuza-dude, I like him the most from the "Zero" bunch.

3,5/5

EDIT: Though it amazes me how stupid Ichigo is sometimes. I bet that everyone reading this chapter could draw the connection between those springs(Yakuza dude's and Yoruichi's & Urahara's).

EDIT 2: Btw. What's so unethical with Yakuza-dude's healing technique that Unohana didn't like? Is there really something that he doesn't tell Ichigo?

Missinglucky said:
Hmm I have a kind of interesting idea which I partially said in previous thread, I shall put it back into this one so it opens up the discussion on it.



Aizen had been planning since before ichigos birth to remove the soul king from power and instigate himself into that position, and from this chapter there is reasoning to believe that both urahara and aizen have been to the soul palace/met the royal guard.  In this chapter we also managed to see what the soul king looked like and it strongly resembled aizens "butterfly" form. so possibly the reason why aizen knows so much about the royal guard (to create the key aka the royal guard) was because he is in some way related to the soul king (father/son/sibling/whatever else) and his whole intention this whole time is a revenge plan because he wasn't the next in line for the throne or that he got removed from the soul palace for whatever reason...



In that context the story of bleach would make Aizen the main character throughout all this time and we're just seeing the story from one of the experiments eyes.

In this view of things i brought up to somebody I know this whole concept and they related it down to some biblical knowledge which actually fits in accurately, if i can remember it at all I will update this post, or post a new post if the thread gets long enough.

Good theory but not going to happen... because








He obviously had no idea what the hell are royal guards and there is a position above central 46 unless you're telling me he found about his past and relationship later when he visit royal palace. Which is even more unlikely because he was already vice-captain that time and no idea about his own history and if you bring in more chemistry like they altered his memories and later he remembered or found out about everything. That will look stupid in my opinion because he was threat from the beginning even if he lost his memories. Why SS or Yamamoto was completely oblivious about him until he kicked out few captains and vice-captains out of soul society and later killed all central 46 and make fool out of them completely. Also i don't expect Kubo would go so deep down to prove Aizen had a very good reason to attack Soul King with that scenario.

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Aizen, as a shinigami, knew about 0 division. He was thinking that 0 squad is full, and due to that Hikifune was promoted 'somewhere else'- that is what suprised him.

or he wasn't thinking like that, because Isshin and Aizen are not family,

but it indicates questions ( 'why would Aizen pretend/ did he pretend or lost his memories?' ) with no logical answers as I can('t) read above ;)

Puty said:
Fai said:
Both Aizen's power and knowledge can be explained by making him Shiba(if Isshin is Shiba too, as well as previous 5tg Royal Guard)

Don't you think that Kyouraku would say something different to Aizen then? Like: "Yep, somebody replaces your brother/cousin from his secret duty(which apparently was a secret because he didn't tell you for some reason) . Oh, and he is banned from SS now."

And Shinji could draw connection between the two if such bond existed.

He told Aizen that he recognized him dangerous. Aizen then asked him why specifically. Shinji could respond" :because you are brother/cousin of taht guy who did something shady and was expelled from SS".



I would like to be the way that Isshin is ex Kenpachi and him being killed by Zaraki was only some mindfuck.



Maybe Shunsui (and other captains) didn't know who was cashiered.

Fai said:
Missinglucky said:
Hmm I have a kind of interesting idea which I partially said in previous thread, I shall put it back into this one so it opens up the discussion on it.



Aizen had been planning since before ichigos birth to remove the soul king from power and instigate himself into that position, and from this chapter there is reasoning to believe that both urahara and aizen have been to the soul palace/met the royal guard.  In this chapter we also managed to see what the soul king looked like and it strongly resembled aizens "butterfly" form. so possibly the reason why aizen knows so much about the royal guard (to create the key aka the royal guard) was because he is in some way related to the soul king (father/son/sibling/whatever else) and his whole intention this whole time is a revenge plan because he wasn't the next in line for the throne or that he got removed from the soul palace for whatever reason...



In that context the story of bleach would make Aizen the main character throughout all this time and we're just seeing the story from one of the experiments eyes.

In this view of things i brought up to somebody I know this whole concept and they related it down to some biblical knowledge which actually fits in accurately, if i can remember it at all I will update this post, or post a new post if the thread gets long enough.



This could work, especially considering the whole Deicide Arc had some very clear parallels of Aizen compared to Lucifer.



I guess it depends on whether is "Paradise Lost" Lucifer, or traditional "evil" one.



Yes the references from there could make that all the possible. I'm actually really interested now to see if this is the outcome of bleach, that all along it was a biblical analogy rather than a teenager powering up to kill the final bad guy.



hungry_bunny said:
I liked this idea... but there are some things that are off, if he was a prince then he should be even more powerful than he already is. He wouldn't need Ichigo, he wouldn't need to destroy 100,000 souls in Karakura town, he wouldn't need to read up on how to make a royal key in the Great Spirits Library of Soul Society... something tells me that Aizen's stay in the Royal Palace grounds wasn't as VIP as Urahara's.



At best, Aizen was a simple citizen who grew up in one of the floating towns surrounding the Spirit King. A kind of fallen angel.



Yes that is true, this idea does have some flaws in it. Maybe the reading up wasn't on how to make the key but maybe how to perfect a body to hold sufficient amount of reaitsu. If he was a citizen on one of the floating islands, then what makes them citizens different from the others? maybe they possibly are relatives of the king but they're too far down the blood line to be meaningful?

The spirit king really does resemble butterfly Aizen, let's see if he is an asshole.



Also, Kirinji is hilarious.

Pretty funny chapter.

What a cute little ass Rukia has!

is there a chapter 2Day ?