Bleach Chapter 514 Discussion

I think that they are somewhat related by Ichigo's mother but no I don't believe he's the father at all. Throughout the whole show it has been emphasized greatly he is half human and half Shinigami. (Excluding the Vizard part of him and all.) In fact that would screw around with a few of the things in the story.



I think it's best to just wait and see what exactly is the connection here. It makes sense for it to be Isshin since it seems like they tried severing ties from the spiritual world to try and live a normal life, since Shinigamis and quincies were against each other so much. If you think about it, it's kind of like Romeo and Juliet, only they had kids, and didn't die a tragic death together.



Also shouldn't jump to conclusions that "how did Ichigo's mom die then if she was a quincy?!"

Just because she had quincy blood does not mean she trained to become a quincy like the others have. She may have possibly knew everything but just stood on the sidelines, trying to avoid combat. This is just speculation though.

Arashi89 said:




Kubo just pull off a *Luke i am your father*



is this shit for reals lol?.

sMug said:
Bach can't be Ichigos father. Why would Ichigo have the same shinigami powers as Isshin then?



i already explained it on my previous post but let me re-write it in elaborative form



Ichigo is a evolved quincy, and quincies abilities is to

"absorb" powers, evolve that more and its not far-fetch to think that

when Soul society massarcred the Quincies they saw baby Ichigo on the aftermath

and Isshin tried to kill him but instead baby Ichigo with his LATENT evolved quincy

"absorbing" abilities just absorb getsuga tenshou of Isshin



im not gonna be surprise too that the bankai stealing powers of the Quincies now

are thesame concept of Ichigo's LATENT evolved absorbing power ability



Fiji said:
Now that there are clues that Juha Bach is Ichigo's father...



Doesnt Juha Bach looks like Zangetsu?



indeed i also said that a whille ago Zangestu's human form resembles Juha Bach and i think its not a coincidence at all

Either way Ichigo is a troll because he is all, all is him.



Watch, next thing he's going to actually be the Spirit King's successor and he never knew it.

j0x said:
lucariogx said:


I never see that coming... darth vader anyone? xD



yep and im not gonna be surprise if Ichigo's real mother was killed by Soul Society

i edited my previous post to say my speculations



Juha Bach being Ichigo's father doesn't make sense. Soul Society killing Ichigo's mother doesn't also make sense. Except if they altered Isshin's memories. Not to mention there's also Urahara. Im pretty sure what he meant by "son" is the blood of quincy within him.



Nice chapter! Now it explains why Ishida's father and Isshin are close friends. I wonder if the son of a Shinigami and a Quincy had a chance to become a hollow because of the mixing of reiatsu. Maybe that's why they didn't co-exist? :o

Yay for Ichigo being everything in the whole damn manga.

More a spiritual son than a true son. Ichigo's mother might be born in the same family of Juha Bach.

Whoa there! o.o I'm used to Kubo surprises, but now... wtf? I didn't see that coming.



Helladank said:
Yay for Ichigo being everything in the whole damn manga.

LOL, same here.

Not a shocking revelation.

cardin said:
Ichigo is Isshin's son because of the similar Getsugas. The end.





denial again, Ichigo is the evolution of a quincy, the concept of quincy powers is to "absorb", evolve that more and you got a person like Ichigo that can also not just copy but absorb powers from people who are close by to him like Isshin, he got this LATENT evolved quincy power as his original power



-MgZ_ said:
j0x said:
lucariogx said:


I never see that coming... darth vader anyone? xD



yep and im not gonna be surprise if Ichigo's real mother was killed by Soul Society

i edited my previous post to say my speculations



Juha Bach being Ichigo's father doesn't make sense. Soul Society killing Ichigo's mother doesn't also make sense. Except if they altered Isshin's memories. Not to mention there's also Urahara. Im pretty sure what he meant by "son" is the blood of quincy within him.



Nice chapter! Now it explains why Ishida's father and Isshin are close friends. I wonder if the son of a Shinigami and a Quincy had a chance to become a hollow because of the mixing of reiatsu. Maybe that's why they didn't co-exist? :o



lol so much denialists... its already clearly mentioned that Juha Bach is Ichigo's father

and besides Ichigo having both Quincy parents will make more drama to this manga, since

the people who Ichigo considers friends named Soul Society are the same people that made his

parents suffer so much... and also the human form of Ichigo's Zanpakuto looks like Juha Bach too

so coincidence? i think not



but ye lets just wait for more new chapters to see what really is true

Dixygirl said:
hmmm I mostly think that Juha Bach is ichigo's grandfather then his dad because ichigo's shinigami powers that he had of his own it makes more sense that way



lol for some reason this made me remember the human form of Ichigo's Zanpakuto really looks like Juha Bach too



batossai said:


just read chapter 56, ichigo loses the powers he gains from rukia, after that point the power rukia gave him never played a role in him being a shinigami. For the rest of the manga when  he transformed into a shinigami it was out of his own inherent ability not rukia's



no need for me to read i remember that in the anime well enough, its just my point is Ichigo's original powers are Quincy, because of the whole "absorb" powers from the environment concept, ye he may have lost the shinigami powers at that time but Juha Bach says in this latest chapter the memories of his real powers have fully awakened, so that means when Rukia give her shinigami powers and was shocked that Ichigo absorbs it fully instead then it might be that Ichigo's LATENT quincy powers just randomly awaken there, and that the whole training to bring back his shinigami powers is just the mutation of the shingami powers he absrob from Rukia with the LATENT quincy powers he has



so to me Ichigo is a freaking Absorber of powers (quincy+shinigami+hollow+fullbring+etc)

Lol. Almost fell out my chair. Standard reaction after thinking wtf is wrong with this guy. why he has so many powers and cannot beat even old guy who cannot travel from his home for too long. i like ichigo but just how much they are planning to screw his heritage?! the next thing he truly will be the next emperor of SS that no one sees. I am actually starting to feel sorry for him. All those revelations are bad for his heart.



And my heart as well