Bleach Chapter 513 Discussion

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  • #98
@ Fai I agree with most of what you said last page, except for Ichigo being Smart. Ichigo is good at understanding others intents and emotions, as well as being gifted in battle tactics and mastering abilities relatively quickly. He is emotionally competent, But Ichigo is Not smart. He has shown time and time again that he lacks intelligence compared to others in Bleach.



Coincidentally, the whole premise of being a superb Quincy is being really intelligent. The smarter one is, the more adept they are at being a Quincy. The whole idea of mastering the Quincy's abilities is being able to manipulate Reishi, and the more gifted one is with intelligence the better they understand the correlation between Reishi, and how it is woven into the fabric of the physical world around them. It has nothing to to with physical, or spiritual strength.



This is shown and explained in I think Chapter 123/124.  When Ishida is fighting Kurotsuchi, and is paralyzed by his technique, Ishida employs Ransoutengia to use the Reishi around him to work himself like a puppet, which requires having complete  mastery over the spirit particles around you. Kurotsuchi says that in examining and dissecting like 2660 Quincy's, not one of them could use Ransoutengia, the most powerful Reishi manipulating Quincy technique. Kurotsuchi then says that he "understands" and calls Ishida a "genius".  This leads one to believe that to become a great Quincy, you have to be extremely intelligent.



As for Ichigo, he hasn't shown even the slightest aptitude for being able to control Reishi. On the way to Hueco Mundo he could not even make a decent path to walk on, which is one of the most basic, and fundamental Reishi manipulating skills. Intelligence wise, Ichigo is an idiot. So how can he all of a sudden use a technique as advanced as Blut Vene which controls Reishi within your bloodstream to a degree of precision accuracy? I guess the only thing that remains to be seen is whether or not Blut Vene is an instinct driven technique, or one which requires practice and skill in controlling Reishi for it's mastery. I sincerely hope it's not the latter or it will be just hilarious to me. I'm usually an advocate for Kubo's antics when writing ,but this would be too much for even the most steadfast Bleach fan to endure.



I can except, and understand, consecutive power-ups for the main character, but a "Power-up" on Intelligence cannot be allowed. There must be another explanation, so I will give Kubo the benefit of the doubt on this one.



And BTW, the first half of this chapter should have filled the first 2 pages at the most. This is getting frustrating.
 
  • #99
it was boring and fucking chapter,

I dont need Ichigo ! I want Zero Squad !!! X(
 
  • #100
It took me 10 sec to read this, anyone beat my record?
 
  • #101
Spkilla said:
:P Apparently If Ichigo Had Died He Could Have Been "Resurrected"

So Maybe Byakuya Might Come Back :P



NO! Enough with people wanting Byakuya back. We need people to start dying in Bleach, finally. Besides, Byakuya's character was pretty much consumed.
 
  • #102
Han-yuu said:
MisaTange said:
Also, how the hell did he learn a Quincy technique? My guesses is that it's from Uryu.

Ichigo noticed that first time in chapter 491 and Urahara explained to Akon this special ability in chapter 499. If Ichigo had learned it from Ishida, there is no way they would be surprised and Urahara need to learn details from Kirge. I think Ishida don't even know about this technique as we never saw him using in any fight. These stern ritters are on completely different level than him.



They might be at the moment, but dont forget Ishida is still a teenager. These guys are all adults. They're way more powerful than him atm, but if they were the same age/fighting experience, i think the comparison would be like ichigo and vicecaptain - no contest.



http://i22.mangapanda.com/bleach/490/bleach-3253973.jpg



I think Ishida is their golden child. I reckon he was sent as a sleeper agent. It'd be awesome if he turns on Ichigo. Doubtful tho
 
  • #103
Byakuya really died, farewell.



Jeez, Ichigio doesn't really stand a chance, I doubt the quincy techniques will help him but "it" buys time until the royal guard arrives.
 
  • #104
Really? thats it? i didnt dislike it, but why the hell it was so quick.Felt like 3 pages at max.
 
  • #105
wow im not really a fan of ichigo obtaining quincy powers D:

but if he can do that then ishida should be able to as well right ?
 
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