Bleach Chapter 507 Discussion

Hypeathon said:
So.... who's the bigger badass this week? Yamamoto or Madara?



Definitely Madara...Yamamoto is another raging cliche character showing off  some random over 9000 power...And him being a good guy fightinng the villain boss whose powers aren't shown yet this early in the arc means he will get his ass kicked.



Madara, wasn't so "they must have been dead by now harr" More like "they are probably....not ok"



Madara got swag.

Han-yuu said:
Candor said:

ShiroiRyu said:
Lol.

Someone said Madara is better than Yama ?

I'm not dreaming ? XDMadara is turning into the new Aizen. Just as Planned.

I read similar reply in naruto discussion and i have to disagree.



Aizen had almost everything just as planned since Ichigo's birth except his last battle didn't go well (not to mention how ridiculous it was. everybody knows). Madara planned very few things (basically the one big plan and how to get there) but not a single thing go well.


1) Tobi didn't get all beasts yet, 2) Nagato was supposed to revive him but they got betrayed, 3) All thanks to Kabuto he's there and trying to finish his big plan right now otherwise he was out when nagato died and tobi was furious. And we still don't know what will happen. Of-course we're reading shounen and bad guy is not going to take control on everything. right? If you call this "just as planned" then i guess everything is just as planned. I can post many examples but i'm trying to keep it short here



Also the main question about Yama and Madara. Seriously, i really don't care who's better neither i had plan to reply this question in the first place, but i believe what i read. Yamamoto is the boss in bleach and yet he was defeated with his all subordinates against a single guy (you can make any excuse but thats the fact), And Aizen who defeated everyone doesn't even hold position like Madara against his opponents. He was merely a child infront of Yamamoto and all senior captains. Madara is NOT. There is big difference in positions and results. That's tell the story of badass.

Just saying "everybody knows" doesn't mean it's a fact, there are things called opinions you know. Both planned and in the 2 plans happened some problems, like what you mentioned above. However, in Madara's plan  
Tobi executed the plan while Madara made the plan, Aizen made the plan and executed it by himself with the help of Gin and Tousen, and doing something by yourself makes things more like the way you want them to be which lessens the probabilities of having problems and failures in the plan, and considering Aizen is a smart villain, very few problems happened. There are still stuff in both manga to be explained, in Bleach things (like Ichigo's birth) will be explained later on, Madara's plan will be explained next chapter, so I'm looking forward to it.



So you're saying that that's the fact and you won't accept excuses, a good argument indeed. Which one is more of a bad-ass depends on opinions, and I don't really care which is more bad-ass, and because I don't care I wouldn't care about the reasoning you're saying for Madara being a bad-ass (after you said you also don't care), I'm more interested in seeing the past in the next few chapters.

Hypeathon said:
So.... who's the bigger badass this week? Yamamoto or Madara?



Either of them.



Yamamoto is the strongest shinigami in history, this chapter makes him (almost) invincible.

Alright, i was kinda expecting his bankai would be bigger in terms of size, but still that was one helluva effective sleight of hand....i think Buckbeard is gonna get beaten only to then succeeding in robbing Yama of his bankai at the end of the battle (perhaps after Yama has let his guard down...)i mean there is no way there is a weapon that strong in the manga (i doubt final getsuga tenshou will compare to this...)....but we'll see....

holy shit, Yama's bankai is PiMP!



I wonder how Juha is going to get out of this one...he def needs to kill yama otherwise there's basically no point in Ichigo coming to SS haha



But now that Hitsugaya can't use his shikai, that guy could prob off him very easy.

Holy fking hell. The sun as his shield and explosions as his weapon. This Bankai is a beast. The scene where everyone's body heat started to get consumed was awesome.

Now THIS bankai has a damn good reason to not be used over and over again.

-Shuda- said:
Candor said:
^

It's planning ahead.



-Shuda- said:
Well, looks like the " Big Shounen 3" has a new strongest character.  Disregarding all plot/character induced stupidity of course.  The sun, the freaking sun.  Did I mention the sun?  Magma (14,000 degrees) in One Piece was insane when we first saw it right?  But this is the freaking sun.Which makes it more interesting to see how Bach is gonna kill him (that's what Bleach need atm imo, the death of the Captain Commander, and that's what I believe is gonna happen, things would get more interesting this way with some great character developments)



Edit: Magma peaks at 1,400 - 1,500 degrees, 14,000 was a typo lol.



And yeah, I'm pretty sure Yama-Ji won't lose due to raw power, it's going to be cheap tricks and deceit.  Though his death will be the pivotal event that will destroy the balance that was withheld these past few thousand years.  I can see everything going to hell lol.  Ichigo going Haruhi-Mode by the end of the series isn't out of the question and was a real theory of mine.  Here's the thread, just in case you're interested.Interesting theories. Bleach is based on Buddhism btw, so I think we could find something if we took a look at how Buddhism describes life. I hope Kubo will make things go grand-scale and draw something different from his previous arcs (like those theories for example), well he said he's been planning his last arc since a couple of years ago, so let's see what he got to offer.

So... what is Juhabach waiting for? If there's a bankai that needs to be stolen, it's Yamamoto's. With it, he can lay waste to Soul Society in minutes, and without it, he has no chance to survive the fight.

Interesting Bankai....I'd like to say there's no way he'll lose....but I don't see the main enemy boss losing this early on....so either he'll try take the Bankai or release his second Quincy form or something.



Well I look forward to the next chapter, I wonder how much of Soul Society will get destroyed lol.

So.... who's the bigger badass this week? Yamamoto or Madara?

You can't call this epic anymore...

this is some annoying power... for the enemy :P



PS: I don't like heat, especially when it dries out all the water XP

Hurry up and lose yamamoto so ichigo can take your spot... and the real bad guys will be revealed.