Peralisc said:
thread, but why on earth do you have to continue the offtopic with a plain retarded and full of crap manga like FMA?
Please gtfo of this thread if you want to discuss such rubbish! Go troll with your offtopics somewhere else.
My troll-sense is tingling. someone is trolling~
Arashi89 said:
1) Again, missing my point. If I would want to hear guitar solo, I wouldn't go to a Britney Spears's concert, I would go to a rock concert. However, everything has a level of quality: almost everyone will say that FMA is way superior to some average shonen manga like, say, Naruto or Bleach. You can see that the mangaka is talented in both writing and drawing compared to the more mainstream artists.
2) Oh really?! Then how did you read this chapter of Bleach? You went to Japan and bought Shonen Jump there?
Get off your high horse: you're a pirate as much as me.
FMA is superior because of style. Its still same shonen tropes, same shonen ideas, same virtues and it follows the similar path. Even the repeated character designs are consistent through her various manga The difference is in style. Arakawa mixes comedy and humor really well and has a bunch of helpers to perfect the art, which is already easier in monthly manga than in weekly one alone.
She is very adept at juggling shonen genre tropes and making them work, but does that make her an uber awesomely great writer? She started a slice-of-life manga few months ago and it sucks horribly.
What you are looking for is called depth. Thats not in shonen genre except some of exceptions. Depth is not required and it does not determine quality.
Kubo for what he does, does it quite good for the genre he is. Good character designs with some unique outfits(and multiple ones both casual and battle ones), good fight scenes and generally good flow in volume format(there are no sudden cut offs in terms of volume flow and it feels more like a volume separated into chapters than chapters bundled into volume, which is VERY good thing). he throws in some references and stuff there and there, manages to hold off and pay off secrets, while still keeping most of stuff relatively simple for the demographic shonen genre is for. Bleach is easy to adapt on-screen, character moves translate well into video games and so on. The best part is that he so far managed to hide the shonen virtues quite well within a story, without turning them into litteral objects like certain other two manga(one of which I heard is basically a parody of legal rights stuff and other one has characters defeating stuff with peace and friendship).
And have to laugh at calling Arakawa non-mainstream... How many non-mainstream mangaka got two different adaptations of the same manga, dozen of manga, two movies on same manga, dozens of ovas on same manga, different volume bundles and different dvd bundles of same manga/its_adaptation AND about a dozen of novels on that manga. AND then she goes on to write a slice-of-life series - genre which is very popular with mainstream audience.
Arakawa is good but she is definition of mainstream right now.
But I don't take joy in it(piracy). And I still support the things I am following by importing games, buying some of my favorite manga volumes, adding to dub-viewercount, etc. :)