D.Gray-man Chapter 234 Discussion

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Illyricus said:


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                        Short chapter, but with a big huge plot twist.



Apparently, the Noahs are from an alternate dimension (similar to our modern world) and were transported to the DGM world by a pillar of light (implied to be the Innocence) and are using the Earl to return to their homeworld (or some thing like that) by pretending to be his family (or maybe that only applies to Road).

So, Allen's nightmare when he appeared impaled with the sword of Crown Clown to a modern building (during the beginning of Alma Karma's arc) was foreshadowing all along. I'm speechless.



A connection between Cross and Road is hinted, but nothing more is said about them.

I think now the climax of this flashback is going to be Mana awakening as the Earl and killing Cosimov and everyone in the circus, ending with him and Red!Allen travelling together.

buunny said:
She’s trying so hard to end this. It never got to be the story it was supposed to be and now she’s rushing, but I appreciate she’s seeing it through to the end. Surprised that there was this much foreshadowing, but I’m glad to see it. It’s because she’s sped up the tempo of the story that it seems to be taking all these hairpin twists and turns, but she really planned them after all. Still love this story for that.

Jim_Heart said:
I am not a fan of this alternate dimension/world stuff because this trope has been quite overused recently, but the twist that Noah Family are manipulated Millenium Earl does make sense considering Earl's weird personality ...

Oh I also missed Road, glad she appeared in this chapter ...

I do not agree with alternative dimension theory at all. But I believe this is post-apocalypsis world, which was stayted in the very begining. At chapter 6 we found out that 7000 years ago this war already happened, Earl lose it, but world was destroyed. So everything is going as Hoshino planned from the very begining. Now we have proof that helps to understand this: at chapter 186(Company and Company), we learned that all humans in the world have Noah genes, case Noah give birth to humanity(compare this to Earl statementat the begining of "Noah arc" arc that humanity borned in the same place, where Akuma borned), so it's definaty not another world.

What this means? At the very least we could assume that Innocence destroyed previous world.
 
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I swear this story gets twisted with every chapter lol. Also prepare for the flashback in the flashback!
 
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They should do a recap chapter, because this series has just been way too long and has been messing too much with the identities of its characters so much so that, it's hard to keep track who's who.
 
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EMP-511 said:


Where did you read it?It has been translated to Spanish here here. I don't know about other languages, but, as far as I know, the chapter hasn't been translated yet.



Edit: Now it has been translated in Mangadex, if anyone wants to read it.



Korhaline said:
Wow you are right! I didn't even remember about that nightmare. https://imgur.com/zXOLD4i  it's chapter 184. Even "the pillar" is shown at the back :o and this was released in 2009...Yeah, I cannot believe this plot twist was planned since 2009. I'm still thinking what happened this chapter.
 
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I can tell this backstory is going to be quite long, but exciting!
 
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Fuck this was an amazing chapter! D.gray Man would go down in history as one of the best shounen of all time if it wasn't because of the authors' injury



Reverse Isekai thought out before it was cool!
 
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Illyricus said:


                        ----------------------------------------

                        Short chapter, but with a big huge plot twist.



Apparently, the Noahs are from an alternate dimension (similar to our modern world) and were transported to the DGM world by a pillar of light (implied to be the Innocence) and are using the Earl to return to their homeworld (or some thing like that) by pretending to be his family (or maybe that only applies to Road).

So, Allen's nightmare when he appeared impaled with the sword of Crown Clown to a modern building (during the beginning of Alma Karma's arc) was foreshadowing all along. I'm speechless.



A connection between Cross and Road is hinted, but nothing more is said about them.

I think now the climax of this flahback is going to be Mana awakening as the Earl and killing Cosimov and everyone in the circus, ending with he and Red!Allen travelling together.



Wow you are right! I didn't even remember about that nightmare. https://imgur.com/zXOLD4i  it's chapter 184. Even "the pillar" is shown at the back :o and this was released in 2009...
 
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A great twist,this also explains why Nea was surprised on seeing Allen young,maybe Allen is also from the other world.



Hoshino really did a great foreshadowing.Also Noah is actually not loyal to the Earl of Millennium was a huge twist.





 
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Illyricus said:


                        ----------------------------------------

                        Short chapter, but with a big huge plot twist.



Apparently, the Noahs are from an alternate dimension (similar to our modern world) and were transported to the DGM world by a pillar of light (implied to be the Innocence) and are using the Earl to return to their homeworld (or some thing like that) by pretending to be his family (or maybe that only applies to Road).

So, Allen's nightmare when he appeared impaled with the sword of Crown Clown to a modern building (during the beginning of Alma Karma's arc) was foreshadowing all along. I'm speechless.



A connection between Cross and Road is hinted, but nothing more is said about them.

I think now the climax of this flahback is going to be Mana awakening as the Earl and killing Cosimov and everyone in the circus, ending with he and Red!Allen travelling together.



Damn this made me think of a theory. the Earl was used as a pawn of sorts by the other Noah's and basically Nea couldn't bear to see it all happen to his Earl bro and killed all the other Noah's. he tried to kill his Earl bro to save him from his plight which failed as the other Noah's must have manipulated his memories and made him turn against Nea. (I suspect Road of doing it).



Just my theory again. If the Earl is whole again (the 14th combined into one entity with Mana to form the orginal Earl) then the heart will appear and destroy this world. I am suspecting Allen having the heart innocence and him being a trigger of sorts. if Allen becomes Nea, combines to form the Earl with Mana, then the heart innocence activates or something.
 
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Love the color page.XD



A short but shocking chapter. Didn’t expect Cross and Road meet and the twist. While so far not really into the another dimension or world twist because it seems a bit out of place and overuse, but I like the pillar twist which is foreshadowed in chapter 184. Interest to see how it play out and the story for the end of Noah’s original world cause by the pillar.



That end page Road crying. 😭
 
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I am not a fan of this alternate dimension/world stuff because this trope has been quite overused recently, but the twist that Noah Family are manipulated Millenium Earl does make sense considering Earl's weird personality ...

Oh I also missed Road, glad she appeared in this chapter ...
 
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I love this chapter,  I have finally gotten my explanation as to why the Noah used 21th century terms like "downloading Noah's arc"  :)

 
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