D.Gray-man Chapter 219 Discussion

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  • #106
This chapter was pure epic, it explained a whole lot of things. Loved the new arts, Neah looked very handsome, also Allen. Nice to see Tyki and Wisely after a while, it was funny when they realized they lost the Earl. I can't help but imagine their reaction if they watched the reveal between Earl and Allen.

So, just who is Allen? And who was the Mana that was killed?

Such a long wait till next chapter!! I m probably gonna read this chapter again and again until i get tired of it.
 
  • #107
What the heck did i just read? I can not remember all the details too. But i remember enough to say i didn't see that one coming. Very interesting devolepment though...



I'm soo happy her art improved. I was barely tolerating it because i liked the story so much. :)
 
  • #108
finally a new chapter.



It is really confusing. I can understand mana and neah are both part of original Earl (their swords is a good proof).



but about allen: who he is?

-a 16y old boy doomed by fate, born miserably to live a miserable painful life as pawn in innocence and noah hand only to die miserably, taken over and erased by the soul sealed inside his body.



-a 35y old guy who forgotten his past about being neah reincarnation and regressed with an new personnality (our allen) and recover his true memory during this chapter.



if it is first, poor poor Allen. God was a real bastard to him.



I really hope our kind allen we follow since years is not definitely gone and will recover his body control to burn all black order, innocence and noah asses on the ground
 
  • #109
Wow. What a returning chapter. It pretty much lived up to everything I had imagined it would be art-wise and story/character-wise. Probably the most prominent chapter so far, as it really speaks to the title more than ever before. This isn't as simple as Allen having a Noah inside him while also possessing innocence. Now he's on the verge of awakening as a half of Adam himself, and it's looking more and more like he has the Heart. It doesn't get any more gray than that.



Saw a theory on mangahere's comments that the current Earl is a kind of replication that Mana created(maybe subconcsiously, in a similar manner as the original Earl splitting into two due to the Earl's ability to create/destroy) to kill Nea, and that Earl went on to faithfully/robotically fulfill his Noah duties after Mana wandered off in his insane grief, probably not even realizing who it was when he resurrected Mana as an Akuma. And it wasn't until after he'd died and the Earl began to be confronted with the memory of Nea through Allen that he began regaining Mana's memories(whether Mana implanted the memories in him or just in the nature of Noah transferring process). So the current Earl is in theory both the actual Earl, and the real deal Mana as well.



Or at least that seems to be the only viable way around the Akuma Mana plothole.  I'd honestly rather it lean more toward the current Earl being a result of Mana being devoured by his Noah memory due to his conflict/feelings of betrayal, and 'becoming a puppet'. It would make the Earl's character feel less broken and jaded, and it's a concept that was hinted at in this chapter with Wisely. But, that doesn't leave an explanation for the panel with Mana holding Nea when the Earl kills him, let alone Akuma Mana.



Of course, the only way to explain it is to have both, Mana gets swallowed by his Noah memory, uses his power of creation to bring about the puppet Earl so that he doesn't become the puppet, and deals with personality disorder until he dies and then puppet Earl slowly obtains his memories a la Nea-Allen(though obviously not the same process here). I just don't know if I like the option where a puppet Earl is created because it feels less genuine in terms of Mana's personality and memory resurfacing, but is there really any other way? I just hope if it is the case, there's a solid explanation behind it.



If it turns out to be simple manipulation/distortion of Allen's memory, that will feel like a huge cop out. Though I have faith Hoshino-sensei has had the answers since the beginning, and that won't be the case.



Gah this three month in between is gonna be hell, but considering what we've already gone through, and the kind of quality we can expect to get every chapter, I think it's not such a large price to pay.
 
  • #110
Wow, what a way to come back.



I really didn't expect that twist, nor that art improvement for that matter. Tho I might need to reread the whole thing from the start, cause it's been such a long time since I read the last chapter. I'm glad to see Allen again, but Nea seems to have taken over. I hope he's still in there, somewhere...
 
  • #111
malik7263 said:
As always the art is amazing and the plot is confusng as hell But seriously i missed every bit of it



-- Btw how often does this release?



4 times a year.
 
  • #112
Wow!

So Nea and Mana were the Earl, but they split into those babies.

But what about the Mana that was with Allen?
 
  • #113
What revelation... I need to reread D.Gray-man to remember all of the terms and the story since it has been a loooooooooooooooong time.
 
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