Hunter x Hunter Chapter 355 Discussion

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  • #58
Z4k said:
To be honest, the fight is starting to feel a bit dragged. I'm pretty sure neither is going to die and the fight will end up getting interrupted when one of them is about to die.

Hisoka could die for the sake of shocking, if that editor comment is true. Would be big waste though. The best way for this fight to end is with Chrollo's death.
 
  • #59
strider98 said:
Yugao said:
Mikasa said:
Yugao said:
I'm upset that no one here is discussing the important parts of this chapter.

How did his hand blow up and who is he controlling at the moment, that's supposed to crouch?



My guess for the explosion is that Chrollo affixed moon to Hisoka's hand at some point. And then had the copies marked with sun. So when he touched the head is exploded on contact.



For the person he is controlling, is it a nen user? There should be a whole lot of people watching that can use nen and are skilled at it. Why would just "normal" people be watching two from the elite, fight it out at heaven's arena?





The ones being controlled by Black Voice however... could. So it could be 3 Nen users against Hisoka (including Chrollo)



Now, the seal was on the head probably, not on Hisoka's hand.



Now, we're not sure if the Order Stamp is still there simply because of the Sun and Moon effect, or because Chrollo's still got the book open on that page, or had it book marked, if it's the former, then Chrollo has 5 simultaneous Bandit Skill abilities (Sun and Moon, Gallery Fake and Stamp combo, basically Explosive Nen-Made Puppet) and two more, which would be Black Voice and some other one (doubt it's Exchange since we see Chrollo in his normal attire (I think)



Yes, I'm talking about the person he's talking to using Black Voice. It _should_ be a nen user, otherwise it's just weird if no one watching can use nen and that he doesn't take that as an advantage. But if he does the match will be really uneven.





That's what I think happened. The target needs to have the seals touching each other for three seconds-five seconds (the head can't do it alone). The weaker version explodes as soon as the seals touch each other. And Hisoka held on the head for a few seconds (?),  so it makes more sense that he has either plus or minus on his hand and the head had the other one. Well it's hard to tell if he grabbed a new head, but same logic applies. He has -, touches head that has +, boom.



Hisoka may have a contract that makes him way stronger from lethal damage. So would be sweet to see the next chapter.



I have a different explanation though. We already know that he was holding a puppet's head. and it's connected to main body through nen. So he used Black voice to control somebody with sun and moon symbol, then touch the other symbol on the main body so that the head explodes the moment hisoka is holding it.



Exactly. I youtuber I followed mentioned this and it makes a lot of sense. The only reason the head still exists is because one of the Sun and Moon symbols is affixed to main body (or somewhere hidden on the head but I doubt it). Making the main body explode would likely make the head explode as well.
 
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Yugao said:
I'm upset that no one here is discussing the important parts of this chapter.

How did his hand blow up and who is he controlling at the moment, that's supposed to crouch?



My guess for the explosion is that Chrollo affixed moon to Hisoka's hand at some point. And then had the copies marked with sun. So when he touched the head is exploded on contact.



For the person he is controlling, is it a nen user? There should be a whole lot of people watching that can use nen and are skilled at it. Why would just "normal" people be watching two from the elite, fight it out at heaven's arena?





Because the puppets created from Gallery Fake don't have nen even if the original person of the copy did. You're thinking it's the same as Illumi's nen infused needles that lend the puppets some of their aura or control the users themselves.



The ones being controlled by Black Voice however... could. So it could be 3 Nen users against Hisoka (including Chrollo)



Now, the seal was on the head probably, not on Hisoka's hand. Hisoka had already got the head in the hand, so it can be the contact between them.



Now, we're not sure if the Order Stamp is still there simply because of the Sun and Moon effect, or because Chrollo's still got the book open on that page, or had it book marked, if it's the former, then Chrollo has 5 simultaneous Bandit Skill abilities (Sun and Moon, Gallery Fake and Stamp combo, basically Explosive Nen-Made Puppet) and two more, which would be Black Voice and some other one (doubt it's Exchange since we see Chrollo in his normal attire (I think)
 
  • #61
When the story has some supernatural stuff i think there is a lot of room for random actions to not question what and why it happened, but this went a little * 1000 overboard ...
 
  • #62
Mosk69 said:
I just signed up to write this , because no one is addressing the theory that another troupe member is involved in the fight , specifically shalnark and/or korutopi because :

1-troupe knows that hisoka can be strong enough to kill chorollo

2-we know for a fact that chorollo doesnt fight fair and fights defensively

3-troupe love and care about eachother

4-CHOROLLO WOULDNT STEAL A TROUPE MEMBERS ABILITY



Now we see chorollo holding the phone and giving comands but couldnt that be a trick ? we know chorollo wouldnt mind fighting like this also yes i am aware of gallery fake but that also can be a trick cuz we never witness him using it the clones just come out of nowhere , and even if we did see him use it an i missed it he couldve used convert hands to make korutopi look like him and shalnark to look like someone else and use the REAL phone from a far as we saw in the end .



my theory is , there might be one or more troupe members involved in the fight and knowing all these abilities i wouldnt rule out if the only troupe member not involved is chorollo himself ! (thats stretching it but it would be quite the plot twist)



this is why i love togashi , this fight is so vague and complex (especially the introduction) that literally anything can happen.



as for my thoughts about the end results , i highly doubt that hisoka will die , unless togashi is trying to make the fans hate the series so he can go on another hiatus peacefully.



Also in not TOO worried about hisokas hand , you never know it might be a chance for him to get a cool metal arm or something lmao , im definitely happy about it because i feel really optimistic because as some mentioned it might be a reason for him to go to DC or it might cause a positive change of character or end up making him stronger and more badass (for example :cool metal arm mentioned earlier).

when i first saw the troupe members abilities being used by chorollo i knew something didnt add up and i thought it was obvious to everyone and i came here to read your thoughts and was disappointed by everyone ignoring it so i had to write this long ass submission i hope it isnt too long to post dang that would suck



I wanted to respectfully address a few points you made.



1. Fighting fair - What a person would define as "fair" is subjective. Chrollo is intelligent and is using the environment to his advantage. HxH is not about fights where pure strength decides the winner. Chrollo explains in the beginning of the fight that gaining an advantage can be done in many ways such as choosing the location to fight, hiding your abilities, etc. Kurapika vs Uvo is a good example. Uvo appears to be much stronger, physically, than Kurapika even though Kurapika has mastered Enhancer abilities. Kurapika tricked Uvo by letting him see his chains but hiding the chain for Chain Jail with In. Rather sneaky, but totally "fair" in the world of HxH.



2. Chrollo DID use Kortopi's Gallery Fake at the beginning of this fight on the referee. He also used several other abilities right after that using his book and bookmark so it wasn't a fake Chrollo or copy.



3. Chrollo probably didn't steal the Phantom Troupe's abilities. Chrollo may have a way to return an ability so it's possible that they let him borrow their abilities for this fight.
 
  • #63
HISOKAAAA!!! What a BOSS!! He went in like an absolute Savage. Dem faces.



Wonder what's gonna happen nxt with his hand destroyed like that? Can he win this single handedly?
 
  • #64
Hisoka's face was epic!

Didn't expect that moment at the end of the chapter. Chrollo fighting style is something that i can't really like
 
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