NANA Chapter 84 Discussion

*sigh* looks like I have a long wait ahead of me until new chapters are released. I hope Yazawa-sensei  is able to finish the series.

I'm getting kinda sick of Nana, I just want it to end already, it feels like it's dissolved into a bad soap opera, I dunno if I can't stick with it much longer.

I seriously hope she starts NANA up again. I know the series can be cheesy but I think it really is a must read for all young women. I think the girls represent young woman rather well.



And to add to the debate on the children's parents, I support that the child is Nobu's. How could the child be Reira and Takumi's if  the one that is obviously Hachi's is younger? That'd mean either 1. Hachi loses this bab and has another down the line, or 2. Reira currently has a hidden children because it is older than Hachi's child.



Also, Hachi promises to name her child after Ren (or in a sense--- she consults him on a name). And well, the kid's name IS Ren.



Also, the kid has a natural interest and talent with the guitar, as does Nobu.



Nobu didn't 'walk out' on Hachi when he found out she was pregnant, he was just shocked and he did offer to do all it took to care for the child, but Hachi was convinced the child was Takumi's since Takumi didn't use protection, but Nobu did (but hey, condoms break). I think she was just trying to think of her child in the long run and the best financial and assumed biological situation, I don't think she was in love with Takumi. She is trying to make the best of the situation and make a warm home and a family for her child to be born into. But so far that doesn't look like that's going to happen. I think they will remain married, yet live separate lives.

Ahhh~ This chapter gives new hope to us NobuxHachi fans again! <3

Thank you Yazawa-sensei for this! Get well soon! ...please? :C

I think Takumi and Yuri should both just drop dead so Hachi and Nobu can finally get together again. I'm rewatching the anime now, And I'm almost at the part where Nobu and Hachi break up. >.<  Man, i don't even want to continue watching for that reason!

come on, don't end it like this

its really agonizing.. waiting for almost 2 years

soul said:
Damn.This chapter was way to short. waiting for months and we got just 20 pages..but well..i loved it;) like always;)

And my hatred for Takum and Yuri is just growning..More and mooore. Geez. One person worse than another..





me too. i hate takumi and yuri more and more. reira too.

aww. this chap. is way too short!! :(



i hope nana is going to give birth to um. *ren or *satsuki soon.

Arwenia said:
spazure said:
Ladylethal said:
So I reread all the flashes into the future and the feeling I have is that Lil' Ren is Hachi and Nobu's kid. I think we all immediately thought Satsuki was older but I think Ren will be born first, and then Hachi will have Satsuki.



That way it makes sense that Lil' Ren has light hair like Nobu, and explain why Nobu is ALWAYS asking for him and asking about him playing guitar (when Nobu said to present pregnant Hachi that he wants to teach the child). Hachi is assuming it's a girl but it will be a boy and since it's only a few months after Ren's death they name him after Ren.



But since Takumi said he'd raise the child as his own he does get attached even though the child is Nobu's. Either way Hachi and Takumi will spend more years together and have Satsuki, and only now in the "future" we see they're separated.



That sounds like the best interpretation yet! I hope Yazawa-sensei decides to continue with the series, I recently heard that she might not after her illness.. :/



I interpreted it the same way. And I was in the beginning  Takumi x Hachi fan but I can't stand emotional disorders (Takumi) and slavery (Hachi) so I was feeling pretty bad when Takumi violated their relationship (sleeping with others, kissing Reira and never calling Hachi). She really loves him, but I think that she made a mistake in too quickly choosing him. Nobody would die if she could wait a little bit longer and talk with Nobu (he haven't even recovered from the news and he was already dumped) and push Takumi away for a while so she can choose. I hope she will choose Nobu. He is a perfect character for her. Loving, caring, everything that Takumi isn't and it would be a real shame if manga wouldn't end this way (marriage Nobu x Hachi). :)

--> And yea. The chapter was short. Really too short.



I really can't comprehend why people like Takumi? Never once in this entire manga has he shown any bit of emotional interest in Hachi. Before she got pregnant, he only talked to her to have sex with her, never meant what he said (only remembering that he promised to come over after he finished the tour when he got yelled at), and only stayed by her side the night her pregnancy came out because he knew her pregnancy was something that could potentially hurt Trapnest, his initial reaction was, "I'll pay for the child", not let's be together. Even after she chooses him, he has never once put her as any sort of priority, he just does what needs to be done for her to survive.



Secondly, Why do people think she loves Takumi? She was enfatuated with him because he was a star in the beginning, and his sweet talk got to her that first night (the night of the tomatoes, not first sex), which is just Hachi being Hachi, lusting after guys based on nothing. As soon as a genuine opportunity for love appeared, her feelings changed, but the pregnancy happened. She only chose Takumi because Nobu left and didn't stay by her side that initial night and Takumi did. You can say that it was Hachi's fault for not talking to him and only apologizing, but she didn't say anything to Takumi either and he still stayed assuming the responsibilty.



Finally, and there's nothing to base this off really, but I just feel that Ren (the child from the future scenes) is Takumi and Reira's.