Gintama Chapter 661 Discussion
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- #4
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This chapter though. First Yamazaki, now Kondo, Hijikata and Okita. There's less and less people fighting Utsuro now. Jeez, Sougo still held a candle during the fight with Utsuro in the FS arc, but now Utsuro seems much stronger than usual. Only those who are used to Shoyo-sensei's fighting style will be able to fight properly with Utsuro, so Gintoki, Katsura and Takasugi are the only possible people that can stop him. That being said, they need to do something about his regenerative powers before they attempt to kill him.
- #5
SenpaiJay98 said:
I mean...Utsuro did solo Gintoki after like 30 seconds of fighting lol(like imagine if Sougo and Kagura weren't there after Gintokis sword broke in FS)
I just hope Gintoki isn't some Altana being though
That's true, hence the first encounter didn't bother me as much as the current one. An exhausted Gintoki just keeps on scoring points on Utsuro. He would have actually won if it weren't for Utsuro's immortality, which doesn't sit well with me.I mean, when you get to a point where your opponent isn't doing much damage to you why should you worry and not try as much(like a High level in RPG), now if someone found a way to kill you(Yato and Shinseguemi) then you'll act in a different way
- #9
Everyone being defeated by him makes me so nervous, where is Asaemon when we need her to cut that crow's head? and where is Takasugi? Make them appear Gorilla
I feel Umibouzu will die, I don't think the main Shinsengumi guys are dead yet... not even Zaki, Utsuro was merciful enough with him not to cut his throat in a second.
*Anxiety increases* Gintama is ending :(
- #10
TogameCheerio said:
I'm not buying this "Gintoki can keep up because he's Utsuro's student!" excuse which was stated back in the Farewell Shinsengumi Arc. But it's one of several clear evidences that Katsura and Takasugi are about to join somehow and the three of them take him down.But it does make sense though. Since Gintoki is used to Shoyo's fighting style, he can predict Utsuro's moves better. But still, he's not strong enough to defeat him. The only way Utsuro can be beaten is if they cut the Earth's Altana sources so he won't regenerate. That would make every damage implemented on Utsuro count.
Well, it doesn't make sense to me, because it should go both ways. Utsuro also knows the fighting style of Gintoki. Utsuro's style isn't some cheap trickery that can be countered with familiarity, his prowess rather stems from an incredible speed, power, and perception. So being his student shouldn't magically offset the massive disparity. Keep in mind that Gintoki is also injured and exhausted.
This is reminding me of the nonsense from Fairy Tail where Wendy's enchantment magic served to cancel out someone who is far and away above her level. Just because two users employ the same style/magic type doesn't mean it can offset the difference in their proficiency/capabilities in the field. And again, it goes both ways... Why is being his student an advantage to Gintoki and not to Utsuro? Why is Wendy's enchantment an advantage to Wendy and not her opponent?
Then again, Utsuro seems to be too familiar with all fighting styles due to living long, so whoever fights against him without fully knowing his style may find themselves in an unfair disadvantage that makes the disparity greater than it actually is. I guess it isn't all that bad when you take that into account.
- #11
I'm not buying this "Gintoki can keep up because he's Utsuro's student!" excuse which was stated back in the Farewell Shinsengumi Arc. But it's one of several clear evidences that Katsura and Takasugi are about to join somehow and the three of them take him down.But it does make sense though. Since Gintoki is used to Shoyo's fighting style, he can predict Utsuro's moves better. But still, he's not strong enough to defeat him. The only way Utsuro can be beaten is if they cut the Earth's Altana sources so he won't regenerate. That would make every damage implemented on Utsuro count.
