Gantz Chapter 369 Discussion

  • #34
Pero said:
HATUL300 said:
An ant cannot suffer like a human being (not even close) so comparing a human's life with an ant's is quite unscientific, but whatever.According to that, Human Perception has an universal value, and beings that don't share it are inferior. But isn't that just saying different=inferiority?

While human feelings are relevant to human interaction, they aren't for other species. Wouldn't we be from their perspective different, and as such, inferior?



Lets make one thing clear, humans used to be almost as dumb as animals and today after hundreds of thousands of years of existence have the intelligence to discover things about the nature of reality and moreover have the technology that gives us the ability to speak to each other about this subject from different places all over the world (like we're doing now). Meanwhile, animals live exactly the same way they did hundreds of thousands of years ago.. And I'm not saying animal's feelings are not important, but any neurologist can tell you that the suffering of ant or even a chicken isn't comparable to the suffering of a human being.

I don't think it's very controversial to say that humans are superior in many ways.. If you just want to call it "different" that's fine, but I don't think that's an accurate description.
 
  • #35
well wasnt expecting all this to be answered in 1 chapter. I like this idea of god. The changing heads thing was creepy.
 
  • #36
Benevolance said:
HATUL300 said:
Pero said:
HATUL300 said:
An ant cannot suffer like a human being (not even close) so comparing a human's life with an ant's is quite unscientific, but whatever.According to that, Human Perception has an universal value, and beings that don't share it are inferior. But isn't that just saying different=inferiority?

While human feelings are relevant to human interaction, they aren't for other species. Wouldn't we be from their perspective different, and as such, inferior?



Lets make one thing clear, humans used to be almost as dumb as animals and today after hundreds of thousands of years of existence have the intelligence to discover things about the nature of reality and moreover have the technology that gives us the ability to speak to each other about this subject from different places all over the world (like we're doing now). Meanwhile, animals live exactly the same way they did hundreds of thousands of years ago.. And I'm not saying animal's feelings are not important, but any neurologist can tell you that the suffering of ant or even a chicken isn't comparable to the suffering of a human being.

I don't think it's very controversial to say that humans are superior in many ways.. If you just want to call it "different" that's fine, but I don't think that's an accurate description.

I understand what your trying to say, but you forget that the theory of evolution is a theory which means it's not proven. You cant really know we evolved from primitive beings.



Wow... Really? I joined just to reply to this asinine comment.

Um, yes we can genius. I love how people of your caliber get intellectually "stuck" on the word "theory".

When you have an idea in science it is called a "Hypothesis":



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis



After rigorous testing, if the evidence is overwhelming, it becomes accepted as a "Theory" which in the science world means it's as close to fact as it gets without looking in the back of "Gods" answer book and cheating, or having the answer proved without any doubt.



Please educate yourself:



https://humanorigins.si.edu/resources/whats-hot/new-early-human-species-announced



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution





This is probably a bit more up your street:



http://earlyhumans.mrdonn.org/





Gantz is my favourite manga but your comment depressed me so much I'm not in the mood to comment too much. Good chapter but need more satisfying explanation at some point.
 
  • #37
wow I didn't see that coming, this chapter was amazing
 
  • #38
I'm in love with this. This is how how I feel about humans too.



"But we have feelings" no shit mate animals don't? Fuck y'all
 
  • #39
Nice Chapter, indeed! A lot questions was answered. And i liked most of those... I guess gantz is really in it end.
 
  • #41
Finally caught up to the  manga, 3 days of rigorous reading. Seems to me, that this series is slowly but surely moving towards it's end. For this episode though, it gave me this strange sense of satisaction. Giving answers, while criticizing humans and propagating a peaceful life was good enough fo me. Looking forward to the next chapter, whenever it arrives.
 
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