Claymore Chapter 121 Discussion

Predictable chapter idd^^ under normal circumstances the 3 abyssal ones should wipe the floor with the ghost and the remaining claymores.

Exkalamity said:


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                        I feel like these new abyssal ones are lacking the creativity and sheer horror that the original awakened beings instilled.



Well, don't forget the fact that the 3 abyssal one's we're used to were gradually and naturally produced. These 3 monstrosities were developed and kept alive unnaturally in a lab and then rushed into production upon their Claymore forms' deaths. I think their primary focus is purposely towards battle effectiveness over beauty & it definitely shows as everyone has pointed out.



I did not see a single thing "lame" as you've put it in this chapter. I still really enjoyed this one, and don't understand how anyone could see it as such. This is a monthly manga, so the chapters are well-worked on & it shows.

True, about Pieta Battle, but I'd say that's a bit of a special and "stand alone" case, as at least half the purpose of the Pieta Battle was a way of the Org to "cleanse-purge" (execute-kill off) those "Troublesome" 24 Claymores, without having their own "hands stained or being able to be accused of their actual intent of malice".



and if you want to get more technical... Clare should have been dead (or Awakened) many many many times, too. Clare has technically "come back from the grave many times".



My statement was more in this loose-general manor and not so specific or technical or special cases-exceptions as there are.



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and again, the point of my (badly done-used) statement is that of the literary, poor writing-story telling.



you can only use a surprise once. If you have a haunted house full of surprises, all of those additional "surprises" aren't surprises, as you're now ready for them or aspecting them more and more with after each additional surprise. Same with a horror movie too, the more surprises, the less you are surprised ("jump up in your seat") by them.



this applies to writing-story telling, to literary.



having a character "come back from the grave" is a surprise, but do it a second or third or fourth, becomes very lame and boring (DBZ, Bleach, Naruto, and etc... with their "Insta-magically" power ups after a beatdown, over and over). thus, it is very bad writing-story telling to have a character "come back from the grave twice or more times".



Aizen being revealed as the villain was excellent in Bleach, but what if there was another such plot twist and another and another, they'd not have that same excellence, that same shock value, as did Aizen's revealing as being the villain.



Irene being revealed to have actually survived Priscilla was excellent, NO ONE could have foreseen-guessed that, as there wasn't anything for us to know, hehe.



Having Irene still alive after Rafaela, would just be lame. Irene has already fulllfilled her purpose, let her "Exit in glory", same with Teresa too, let Teresa remain dead, as the Legendary Ultimate Being, even more powerful than Awakened Priscilla, hehe :D



Renee could be brought back like Irene was, but I just don't see how it could be done for significant purpose, in how it could be done well... Irene's "comeback" was excellent and significant... saving Clare from trully about to being killed by Ophelia, hehe, and then in cheering up Clare about being responsible for Teresa's death, and finally in teaching Clare the QS, Yoki Focusing Ability, and giving Clare her Arm, so that Clare again has two arms.



The same applies to Riful as well... I don't see any way for Riful to be "brought back" with any type of significance, in a well-done way...

Ani-Blast said:




Exkalamity said:
I feel like these new abyssal ones are lacking the creativity and sheer horror that the original awakened beings instilled.



Well, don't forget the fact that the 3 abyssal one's we're used to were gradually and naturally produced.



I don't believe these new abyssal ones are lacking in creativity or any less menacing per say than the original abyssal ones. But I do feel that the original abyssal ones had an air of invincibility and power that has been all but utterly destroyed by this point. The term abyssal ones doesn't have the same chill (down spine) factor as it once manufactured in the reader. It's all Priscilla's fault. I hate her. She's so broken.

kisami said:
they really didnt look abyssal to me. abyssals are suppose to be massive. those just looked like special awakened.



Awakened Alicia wasn't that big either.

This end ...

When they are all back !

from the literary stance, it is unlikely that Irene (and Renee too) are still alive. Too much time has passed... with them being gone or missing.



Yagi would never have a character "brought back from the grave twice". That's poor writing.



Miria and Irene have already been "brought back from the grave once", and so Irene is likely dead this time around with Rafaela, and should Miria die again, it'll be for good.

Exkalamity said:
I feel like these new abyssal ones are lacking the creativity and sheer horror that the original awakened beings instilled.





SecretNobody said:
I agree.. I think Yagi is running out of ideas because all of his new "monsters" look like recycled versions of past ones. I'm sad to say his art is not as good as before, because all of it lacks something now.. [I'v said this many times, but no one reads it anyway]



Even one of the first awakened beings we saw looked better than the 3 new abyssal ones.

http://www.mangareader.net/485-29345-3/claymore/chapter-34.html.



I agree to, but we don't care about that, because the three new abyssals won't stay alive a long time.





SecretNobody said:
Volumes 1-14 were good. The rest, meh..

And geez, there's 3 new abyssal ones when we don't even know what's going on with Clare, Priscilla, The Destroyer, Raki, and the other Continent.



The story of the manga brings foward step by step, don't be hurried...