Fairy Tail Chapter 537 Discussion

short_review said:
Isterio said:
5/5 chapter



This was actually even more funny than the chapter









For you to understand why I liked it. It´s not necessarily the execution, but the idea behind the concept of "The curse of contradiction".



It reminded me of Tantalus or Sisyphus. Aren´t you french? You should be able to appreciate such a concept.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalus

Am I the only one who hated the chapter just cause Zeref died?

Corniest shit I ever read in a manga.

And Makarov being alive is trash

short_review said:
First problem is the same cause should have the same effect. Mavis and Zeref already shared a kiss and felt love for each other aaaaand ... only Mavis died.

And here we repeat the scene but we have to accept that both of them die. Why? Same cause but different effect. Sorry no.



Perfectly valid complain, nonetheless the very same chapter gives an explanation for this occurence. One felt genuine love for the other hence, he killed the person he loved despite her immortality, while the other person was a pretender. I assume that with your 30+ years of age you had plenty of relationships in your lifetime with differing levels of affection towards your former girlfriends and possibly your wife, of which some felt genuine love towards you, while you only were interested in some of their other qualities.



short_review said:


Second problem is ... I expect a bit more than that kind of cheap device as a way to vanquish Zeref. A good ending to such a plot is something out of the box (A good example of out of the box ending for Fairy Tail was the way the Galuna Island mistery was solved = you've not been transformed into monsters, you lost your memories as monsters).  



Something that can be easily spun into an asspull by the illiterate and a boring nonsensical plottwist by the others. Point being that albeit being an amazing plottwist for Shounen Manga standards Galuna Island had zero foreshadowing to it´s conclusion and could be only predicted by those who thought outside the box for the  sole sake of diversity.



short_review said:


Here with Zeref we are just given the obvious solution "my love could kill him" which obviously raise the question "why wasn't it the case the 1st time?"... so it's at the same time boring and not really functionning.



There is a reason the principle of the Chekhov's gun was popularized. You may like it or hate depending on execution but as I pointed out the other extreme has the potential to be equally intolerable.

Wether or not you consider it a good reason as to why the plotline worked this time around is besides the point. The author gave the audience a reason why the same concept worked in one situation and didn´t work in another one by changing the existing variables.

Is it lazy to excuse the death of a person by changing a persons feelings from liking him to loving him? Yes it is, but so is blowing into ones arm to make him significantly stronger.



What is inexcuseable however is the fact that "MAVIS DIDN´T DIE". Or that her son died for no reason. Or the fact that Zeref had sex with a Loli and I could go on, but that´s why the Manga is a piece of shit and not this chapter.



frostmourn said:




IKR, this chapter was good except the revival of Makarov. By now I'm immune to rage from death fake outs.

I rated it 4/5, would've been 5/5 if not for the fake death



Yeah, it´s also such a footnote on the chapter as a whole and half the fandom predicted that he wasn´t dead anyway, so who gives a shit at this point.

It technically soils the chapter, but let´s say we´d put it into next chapter, that I´m sure will be horseshit and it wouldn´t hurt this one at all

what a moving chapter. zeref and mavis's ending was really sweet and i'm glad that they got to go together.



i definitely have mixed feelings about makarov though. it's great that he's back, but it just feels weird and defeats the impact set earlier. but as some people have pointed out, even though it feels cheap, lives were still in a sense exchanged for his so it's not the worst thing that i've seen happen at least.

FateHero said:
SuperRed said:
FateHero said:
I am absolutely amazed at you people and your ability to hate on this series for being EXACTLY WHAT THE AUTHOR WANTS IT TO BE!!!



Mashima wrote Fairy Tail this way because that's what he wanted it to be, if you don't like it, that's YOUR problem. It doesn't make anything in this story less gut-wrenching, heart-warming, or amazing.



I for one choose to rejoice in Makarov's restored life! Because this is the Fairy Tail I love!



And you know what? Screw it - I HOPE MAVIS AND ZEREF'S MAGIC CANCELLED OUT AND MADE THEM BOTH MORTAL AGAIN!!!





"I have no standards for decent writing"-your post. "I have no respect for authors." - your post.



As someone who has been writing fiction for nearly 9 years, I tend to have fairy high standard for decent writing, and am currently trying to discern whether or not you understand what the definition of 'decent writing' even is.



What I am trying to say is that those of you harping on Mashima for not killing off his Main Characters have clearly missed the point of Mashima's writing style. What's worse, a lot of you seem to be under the illusion that this is a new development in his works, talking about how Fairy Tail 'started out' great but then 'became garbage' later on - and that is 100% BULLSHIT!



Mashima has not changed the way this story is written from the day of its conception to now. For all 537 Chapters >THIS IS WHAT THE STORY HAS BEEN LIKE<, this is what the story was MEANT to be like, because that's what THE AUTHOR wanted it to be.



If you are one of those people that think Fairy Tail has steadily gone down the tube over the course its run time, I have a newsflash for you:



Fairy Tail NEVER changed, YOU did! So stop blaming the author just because you decided you don't like his style anymore.



Fairy Tail is an amazing story with deep, relatable characters, a rich, intricate history, and a fun, compelling plot.



So I will repeat: If you don't like it - that's YOUR problem; it's not Mashima's job to cater to your tastes. You don't have to like Fairy Tail, but giving the series so much grief over a - quote unquote - "problem" that has existed since its inception is an exceedingly small-minded and petty thing to do.



Just because Mashima thinks his style of writing is ok doesn't mean it actually is. I know Mashima doesn't intend to make FT a dark series that's why he doesn't like killing characters. The problem is that because of that most attempts at being seriously emotional backfire because the readers know they will be back soon after. If he didn't pretend to kill off characters only to bring them back via Deus Ex Machinas nobody would have a problem with the series.



Mashima also has a huge problem with delivering on the hype he builds up for his antagonists, Jacob became a complete and lame joke despite being supposedly a super strong opponent. God Serena gets plenty of buildup only to get one-shotted by Acnologia and is brought back in a weakened form where he gets defeated in a chapter by Gildarts, Irene and August commit suicide just for plot convenience, Acnologia himself is defeated by a ship ran by a comic relief character rather than an actual DRAGON SLAYER.



Fanservice is drawn when it shouldn't happen and makes the mood worse.



This isn't disliking a particular style, this is basic bad writing that most authors are told to avoid.

With every new chapter, I'm disliking this series more and more. Horrible ending. Rest in pieces.

MAKAROV IS THE TRUE IMMORTAL BEING IN FAIRY TAIL!