Fairy Tail Chapter 483 Discussion

frostmourn said:
Zalmox1s said:
Looks like the next chapter is named " The Monstrous Six" . I wonder if it refers to the original 6 spriggans that were planned for this arc, or it is something completely different.



So far, August, Eileen, Invel , Brandish and Bradman seem to be, but there's one missing.

Brandish? ROFL, she is a low tier Spriggan, got one shotted by fuckin Cana lol



High Tier Spriggans :August, God Serena, Eileen, (Invel and Bradman by hype)

Mid Tier Spriggan : Neinhart, Dimaria

Low tier Spriggan : Ajeel, Jacob, Brandish, Wahl (Wahl may be mid tier)



I was reffering to the "original spriggans" with that, not at their power levels. It was a mistake on my part for not mentioning.

Wim said:
GokuSSJG said:
metsujin said:
tr1ckst3r said:
GokuSSJG said:
tr1ckst3r said:
I wouldn't expect anything good when it comes to FT fight at this point, you should've realize that FT power level has gone awry, nothing makes sense anymore and will never be



I think one reason why Hiro keep Brandish with FT team is because he didn't knew how FT member can defeat her properly since Brandish can practically wipe the whole island in an instant.



The God Serena is weak joke is also pretty amusing, he is far from weak, he is just unfortunate that he is on the bad guy side, if he were with FT team, he will goes all 'I'll protect my Continent and it's people' and manage to gave Acnologia a few scratch, that just how FT power scaling work,  Hiro will always makes FT team stronger than their enemy no matter how strong thay are even if its didn't makes sense.



Especially now that the so called strongest Spriggan gonna make their appearance, I'm expecting a lot of nakama power bulshit in the upcoming fight tbh.

Gildarts fought Acnologia.oh he didn't fought him he got rekt before he knew what happened.Oh, let's not forget how Makarov hold Acnologia alone with his barehand back at Tenryojima.

Considering how Gildarts got one shotted by Acnologia 'off screen' and how Makarov can hold him at Tenroujima, it's safe to assume that the already fodder Makarov > Gildarts, thats mean Gildarts, FT strongest magician is weaker than an even more fodder Makarov that only capable of fighting fodder at Tartaros Arc.

So I didn't see any point of Gildarts existences at this point.

Well Gildarts also said that Acnologia wasn't using the same power he used when they 'fought', and it was merely toying with the Fairy Tail members.

funny cause I think he said that it was over before he knew what happened.it seems to me that he got God Serena's treatment.luckily,he wasn't a Dragon Slayer so he survived.



He said it was he fought a Black Dragon and it was over before he knew it when he spoke with Natusu when he came back and then later during  the Tenrou Island arc Gildartz said he wasn't using the same power he used when they fought.



That just means Acnologia could've ended Fairy Tail in the same time it took for him to utterly destroy Gildarts and Serena.

GokuSSJG said:
frostmourn said:
GokuSSJG said:
frostmourn said:
GokuSSJG said:
frostmourn said:
trump54 said:
TheGrandSage23 said:
The last time I was even remotely hyped was chapters 464-465 which featured two of the three characters that should be getting the most focus but no we have to deal with 12 lackluster characters



God this arc is the prime example of wasted potential



Irene isn't special so why the hype? People are setting themselves up for disappointment. She was pulled from Hiro out of nowhere to make Erza relevant in this arc which unnecessary.



483 sucked. One shots everywhere characters being OOC. Charle and her cringeworthy dialogue. Jellal beating Failhart with a basic spell and Failhart not even attempting to fight.



And the historias amounted to jack crap



What a bum of a character





WHY SO SERIOUS

Lol



It wasn't that bad. When you can't stand ill be your legs Carla said. Little too sweet but fitting. The battles with he historian were challenging, but since they have beat them before an grown since of course they could do it now. I hope the anime expands more upon  gray/Lyon vs UR their could have been more their.



Why does everyone forget how powerful jellal is, he one of the strongest wizards in the world. Of course this was easy, we all knew oration sis team on fairytale side made this too easy.





Anyway sabertooth is who we should be focusing the narrative too now. Unlike mermaid heel/and lama scale which has about 2-3 strong wizards each, Sabertooth entire guild is made up of beefed up wizards physically and in magical reserves.



An extremely terrible chapter can make people serious lol.



Jellal is one of the strongest characters, but so is Neinhart. Remember the hype of Spriggan 12? I guess that's all flushed out to the drain.



Moreover Neinhart was hyped up even more than the other 2 spriggans in that area (that beast silhoutte, someone who actually defies Zeref's orders, almost one shotting Jellal in the beggining of the fight ......... too much hype all wasted)



The problem here is that Jellal one shotted Neinhart with his basic spell, and Neinhart didnt even attempt to block/counter it with his own nuke. EXTREMLY BAD writing considering its a battle shounen



And with all these one shots (5 I believe), I find it surprising that more people are not ranting. Laxus......ugh, the dumbest dialogue + worst one shot. I never thought Hiro could make me complain this much about Laxus, guess I was wrong

Laxus is OP AF.ofc he will one shot Hades.



No he can't. Laxus is slightly above wahl, who is much weer than God Serena from what we've seen.



Also from what we've seen in Tenrou arc, Hades >> Makarov (who is stronger/as strong as Jura). Meaining, Hades is WS 2/WS 1 level (unlikely that he's as strong as God Serena, but he's quite close)



This means that Laxus <= Hades. But of course if you fanboy Laxus, then he is omnipotent to you, and this discussion would be pointless.



(P.S: Note that Laxus was already beat up when he faced Hades, there is no way in hell he shoud've won that fight).

there is a big gap between Tenrou arc and Alvarez arc.plus,Laxus wasn't even going all out against him during Tenrous arc.Wahl was immune to lighting,lol.ofc it was hard to beat him up.as soon as he was healed he one shotted him.



Laxus is not the guy who holds back.He was going all out against Wahl.



Laxus is only slightly stronger than Wahl. Proof is that they were almost on par with each other till Laxus's illness stuck him. Then he kept on getting wacked until Wahl himself healed Laxus. Due to this, Wahl's program started malunctioning, causing Laxus to get to Wahl and one shot him with a chemical lightning (LOL)



The fight was BS (asspull mercury) , but it showed us where Laxus stands. Moreover Laxus was fully beat up after that fight.



You say that there is a big gap between Tenrou and Alvarez? Fine that true, but there are factors which we can use to compare characters in Tenrou and Alvarez, which I mentioned in my post previously. Re-read. Hades and Laxus (present) are comparable, which is why its BS if a beat up Laxus beats Hades. It would've been ok if Laxus gave him a fight if he was at full strength

Natsu does that every time.guy is rekt then he defeats them.Laxus's Red Lighting is a good edition.I'm not talking about him holding back against Wahl.I'm talking about Laxus vs Hades.there is a difference when he is bloodlusted like he was against Natsu and Gajeel and when he was against Wahl or Hades.Hades is sometimes overrated.Laxus vs Wahl was one sided because Wahl was immune to lighting when he activated his Assault form.I have to reread that chapter again.he was not just "slightly stronger".



You just gave the reason why Natsu is one of the worst/cliche characters in shounen.



They were on par with each other before Laxus got nerfed by his illness. And there, Laxus wasn't using nukes, just enchanted puches and kicks, so was wahl. They are par at least in physical strength aspect. Wahl is definitely stronger in nuke aspect, he has Etherion canon (we all know how OP that is). Laxus beats Wahl only in durability aspect (maybe speed too)



Lol, Hades was the one holding back in Tenrou, not Laxus. Hades wasn't even serious, merely having timepass figthing a strong mage. If he was serious, he could've finsihed the entire FT in like 5 mins. Re-read/Re-watch the final fight in Tenrou.

Chaos_Harbinger said:




Could Obra be a 13th Spriggan?







Someone knows his sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTV2Wxyb--g&index=9&list=PLgAmUlt3kFoa24J43WElWxmjwsc0CbC6o

Darklight0303 said:
RileyReid said:
She looks cool and all, but it's hard to give a shit about any of the Spriggans when you know that they're not gonna live up to the hype...



What happened to the "they are all around God Serena's level of power"? And yet while God Serena took the top 4 saint wizards in Fiore all by himself the others Spriggan are being defeated left and right in 1v1 fights



There you go again overestimating the wizard saints.

I think the overhype goes both ways, which is probably why this arc falls so flat for me.

Rex_Connor said:
xso111 said:
Rex_Connor said:
xso111 said:
frostmourn said:
xso111 said:
okay, so let me get this straight..... jellal's mere AURA alone's capable of changing the whole atmosphere even in the skies on the horizon?.....skies in the horizon are ranging from several km..... and he oneshotted a freaking spriggan with nothing other than his day to day casual spells(grandchariot is not even considered his ultimate spells)

Which is why this is a bad chapter. Jellal one shotted Neinhart with one of his weakest attacks, no matter how powerful this guy has become its still lame

because he's just that strong in this timeskip







It's not because it's that strong, it's because Neinhart is a complete fodder in durability.high mp provides high durability.... That was addressed already in tenrou arc



High MP doesn't provide high durability. Lol.

It means nothing when you can't prove with actual durability feats, something Neinhart lacked and hide to cower behind Simon for a reason. He was pathetic, and in turn made Jellal pathetic.



why don't you try reading tenrou arc again..... erza focused her MP to become a glass cannon...... grey's comment of laxus when he took hades' blast without his MP...... Gildarts screaming in pain after being hit by bluenote when Azuma uprooted the tree which removed his MP.....

Jarjaxle said:
Chaos_Harbinger said:
Jarjaxle said:
Chaos_Harbinger said:
Jarjaxle said:




THE Monstrous 6? .....AKA Most Likely 6 True Strongest Mages of Sprrigan 12?



Nah, the Spriggan once again proved they are a joke. This all seems like a filler until Zeref and Acnologia.



Well....We can hope at least....These guys along with 4 Gods of Ishigar were supposed to be THE ULTIMATE Wizards...Losing only the Zeref and Acnologia....



So far, while they have had amazing and Strong abilities....Lost way too easily. Maybe these 6 were the Canon Fodder of the Sprrigan 12?



7 of them have lost and Brandish 85% has joined the FT side.



Yeah but God Serena was Newest Member...so...he was Member number 13?



Thats what even I was wondering, God Serena joined them like 1-2 months before the war; but even before that they were called Spriggan 12.



Maybe we are thinking too much, the author himself gives 0 fucks about his manga anyway, might be a plot hole

frostmourn said:
GokuSSJG said:
frostmourn said:
trump54 said:
TheGrandSage23 said:
The last time I was even remotely hyped was chapters 464-465 which featured two of the three characters that should be getting the most focus but no we have to deal with 12 lackluster characters



God this arc is the prime example of wasted potential



Irene isn't special so why the hype? People are setting themselves up for disappointment. She was pulled from Hiro out of nowhere to make Erza relevant in this arc which unnecessary.



483 sucked. One shots everywhere characters being OOC. Charle and her cringeworthy dialogue. Jellal beating Failhart with a basic spell and Failhart not even attempting to fight.



And the historias amounted to jack crap



What a bum of a character





WHY SO SERIOUS

Lol



It wasn't that bad. When you can't stand ill be your legs Carla said. Little too sweet but fitting. The battles with he historian were challenging, but since they have beat them before an grown since of course they could do it now. I hope the anime expands more upon  gray/Lyon vs UR their could have been more their.



Why does everyone forget how powerful jellal is, he one of the strongest wizards in the world. Of course this was easy, we all knew oration sis team on fairytale side made this too easy.





Anyway sabertooth is who we should be focusing the narrative too now. Unlike mermaid heel/and lama scale which has about 2-3 strong wizards each, Sabertooth entire guild is made up of beefed up wizards physically and in magical reserves.



An extremely terrible chapter can make people serious lol.



Jellal is one of the strongest characters, but so is Neinhart. Remember the hype of Spriggan 12? I guess that's all flushed out to the drain.



Moreover Neinhart was hyped up even more than the other 2 spriggans in that area (that beast silhoutte, someone who actually defies Zeref's orders, almost one shotting Jellal in the beggining of the fight ......... too much hype all wasted)



The problem here is that Jellal one shotted Neinhart with his basic spell, and Neinhart didnt even attempt to block/counter it with his own nuke. EXTREMLY BAD writing considering its a battle shounen



And with all these one shots (5 I believe), I find it surprising that more people are not ranting. Laxus......ugh, the dumbest dialogue + worst one shot. I never thought Hiro could make me complain this much about Laxus, guess I was wrong

Laxus is OP AF.ofc he will one shot Hades.



No he can't. Laxus is slightly above wahl, who is much weer than God Serena from what we've seen.



Also from what we've seen in Tenrou arc, Hades >> Makarov (who is stronger/as strong as Jura). Meaining, Hades is WS 2/WS 1 level (unlikely that he's as strong as God Serena, but he's quite close)



This means that Laxus <= Hades. But of course if you fanboy Laxus, then he is omnipotent to you, and this discussion would be pointless.



(P.S: Note that Laxus was already beat up when he faced Hades, there is no way in hell he shoud've won that fight).

there is a big gap between Tenrou arc and Alvarez arc.plus,Laxus wasn't even going all out against him during Tenrous arc.Wahl was immune to lighting,lol.ofc it was hard for him to beat him.as soon as he was healed he one shotted him.