Fairy Tail Chapter 441 Discussion

^guys I have a feeling that this is kinda my fault for not stating that i just said that to get rid of the troll and that this is a chapter discussion not a NaLu Vs. NaLi discussion

(Though I do believe NaLi is best based on how the series is going so far sadly NaLu will probably win)

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Great I got caught up in the moment too. Why dong u guys just make a new thread called NaLu Vs. NaLi or something because this a CHAPTER DISCUSION AND WHAT YOU ARE ARGUEING ABOUT HAS ALMOST NOTING TO DO WITH THE CHAPTER, there were neither NaLu nor NaLi scenes in this chapter so yeah make your own thread please.

Isterio said:
KingAce261 said:
Isterio said:
What was to be expected the infiltration fails and it becomes an all out war.



Whatever it was expected and well executed till now.

Il still hoping Mest (Fairy Tail Spy MVV) erases the soldiers memories and replace them with something so they can still do infiltration



This would be a solid way to solve the storytelling into a stealth mission, but that´s not Fairy Tail. Even during the Mira/Natsu "infiltration" out of nowhere 5 guys popped up who had to be defeated.



The whole idea behind the "infiltration" will probably be hat not all of Fairy Tail will be involved but the Tenru team. If you look at it who is on the mission currently? The tenru team excluding Gildarts. Also the Government isn´t involved.



I bet my ass that Hiro if anything will troll us into thinking it´s gonna be different this time to make it another  typical Fairy Tail Arc but just like Tartaros this will have reporcussions.



What I wanna see this arc is this. Give Mira a fucking win. Stop trolling the B team in general and give Laxus a proper fight not a oneshot you´re strong I give up.

Make Lissana impactful to whatever, expore her relationship with her siblings a little more or with Natsu currently she´s a fanservice character. Either she´s Kawai or semi naked.



Least developed character that´s considered "important".



What I'm hopping is that mest erases the guys memories and they get gramps then leave then when they come back they find that becuase Erza left without telling erveyrone to be in high alert or stay herself. Lumen historic is stolen and everyone nit in team tenrou is injured badly, while the rest recover team tenrou with maybe some help from other guilds and or magic council go to Alvarez to get revenge and lumen historic back. They can go in gorrilla style but I'm hoping they go in military style and that Mavis helps with tactics again



To bad the changes of this happening is slim and yeah I hope they give B team more battle because they are definitely better than A team it's just that A team is team Natsu and main. Ezra and Mira are equal so anything Erza can do Mira can do she just doesn't get any chances. Same goes to the others and we all know Laxus is a Badass' Badass but he gets very few times to be a badass. Then there's lucy her fights are always so boring I wish they would let her take a back seat once in a while and let a B team member shine and same goes for Wendy her fights aren't as boring as Lucy but still she can fight but you really just wanna see her on a team with support and healing and combat.

LordChaos246 said:
KingAce261 said:
denieffe36 said:
KingAce261 said:
Fairy Tail really has just been getting worse and worse and worse after the tartuourus arc. First when Natsu came back and I saw his boost I was like aww yeah Natus is finally the badass he was meant to be and the final battle is coming up. Then when avatar came I was like AWW YEAH GRAY FINALY GETS SOME CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. Then when it left I was like "WTF is this shit" then after thinking about it I thought it was probably the editors who ruined it and just made it a way to showcase their power and while the arc could have been better as in much better and gave gray character development it's not the end of the world, but then it became the end of the world. After avatar I find it impossible to get hyped up for the next arc even I'm thinking all the hype for the 12 spiriggans is gonna turn out to be the opposite so I just can't get hyped. I felt a lil hyped when I learned they might be going to war and finally it won't just be FT going in gorilla style but then Erza ruined that by sending everyone on a wild goose chase to find gramps whom they do not know where he is, who knows who could have a plan with that God Serena and not need resucing and is it impossible for Erza to not be the worst GM ever and make a small team that could actually be somewhat good at an infiltration (like Gray, Mest, and Gajeel) instead she makes a small team of five that fail before they even get to the country they are supposed to be infiltrating and she never told anyone to be on high alert or that enemies may come and you have to stay here to protect the guild, so if this was real life they already lost. Now I know they are gonna go in gorilla style and probably fight the 12 spirrigans and then like always win which means the hype is gone. Now the only thing I can look forward to is the final battle arc(s) and I beg plead and pray they don't ruin that for me. Honestly I would have dropped this manga a few chapters back if some irrational part of my heart didn't tell me to keep reading because Hiro will show us the great Faiey Tail again because I know he can do better than the shit I have been reading since the end of torturous even though it may ruin my good memories of it, I still read it in hopes that the amazing and my favorite series fairy tail from tarturous back will return, but lately that hope has be dimming more and more and I think I am just torturing myself on false hope. First they ruin TV and now they ruin Faory Tail

i think you should probably take a break from this manga for a year if thats how you feel. weekly it might be disappointing but as a whole this arc will probably be good.

I try but I just can't bring myself to do so. I always have false hope cuz there's a small chance that this week it will be Zerefs past again or the next a funny moment or tommorow a badass fight, but yeah I get what u mean I should probably take a break but as long as there is hope I can't, Fairy Tail used to make Monday (worst day ever) slightly better especially durring school when I could read it before I go, remembering those times I can't just give up on it  (but if they kill gramps or keep erza as seventh dropped that will probably push me over the edge cuz permanent stuff like that would ruin the entire manga and up coming chapters)



I understand how you feel but I honestly think you had your expectations a little too high. It's understandable though, Hiro can give us gold one day and then give us a trainwreck of a chapter the next day but just try to relax and not think to hard about it otherwise it will ruin the experience. I can't really change how you feel about the series now but try to keep your expectations low if you can. I've been doing that for years and it makes it a little easier to read weekly.

K I see what u mean but I used to think the worst chapter Hiro did was silver and best adamantium/platinum and the gold were more frequent. On the other hand I've come to expect bronze from the anime because of all those stupid filler arcs which are sometimes even less (copper). Ever since after Tarturous every chapter has felt like either bronze or copper except for the first few that felt silver. I understand though and will now expect bronze from both the anime and manga.

G_Spark233 said:
Of course they would get into a fight lol



They'd be out of character if they didn't intervene to protect the kid tho

KingAce261 said:
^no lisania is a better character than Lucy. Hell every character in the show (and yes I know I said show not series because even the filler arc characters are better than Lucy) even the one second extras are better than Lucy. But before a big argument breaks out remember this is a CHAPTER discussion is if u wanna talk about NaLu Vs. NaLi or Liasanna Vs. Lucy plz make a new thread



We do not wanna talk about Ships, the main beef of this argument is between you two one claiming how one character is individually better than the other.



I just try to intervene here and explain that you both can be right in your own regards.

You could start by explaining why do you think Lissana is a better character, by herself not from a pairing standpoint. Pairings and characters are two entirely different things.



State facts, what did Lissana accomplish, what did Lucy accomplish, what makes them better in your opinion.



Since this a chapter discussion you could explain Lissanas worth in B group and why it´s important for her to be there. Metsu could explain Lucy´s worth as a main character.

I for myself think Lucy is a very shitty main character when her story is related to Fairy Tail. When her story s related to her family or her spirits it´s way better written but that´s just my opinion.



@Metsujin, I just compared undoubtable main characters of other competing and more popular shounen series to this series undoubtable MC.

Comparing Natsu to Gray Erza or Wendy is unfair by default, because even though they are Mc´s Natsu is still more important to the story than them.



The equivalent from another authors story are Luffy and Naruto. I could have said Goku too, but he´s underdeveloped in his own right, because Goku works that way. A multidimensional Goku would feel awkward, he would lose his charm.

^ditto right now we know very little. All we know is that Alvares may go to war to get lumen histories and they have tried before but were stopped by the magic council. We don't even know what lumen historie does.

Welcome to Naruto, Natsu xD

I thought we were past the whole motion sickness, the dragons are out of their bodies and I thought that gag was over, it seemed to have passed, and now it is back, make up your mind Hiro, and now Wendy has this problem, I guess it had nothing to do with gender.



Meanwhile the B team continues to grow, first Elfman appears out of no where, we are completely reminded why because of Evergreen, that makes sense, and Levy joins them, who I thought would be working with the Wizard Saints in this one, but okay, glad to see her and Gajeel together, they are my favorite couple in this series.



But the question I have, at this rate will anybody be left to watch the guild? The whole Tenrou team is gone, if Twilight Orge wants to cause trouble again, nothing to stop them.



Nice to have Cait Shelter mention again, Erza and Lucy look awesome, looks like the infiltration mission didn't last long, I knew they would blow this cover, but this fast. And I wonder who was the spy they were going to meet with? Next chapter sounds like we will see the powers of one of the enemies.



Don't know what to make of the chapter, I guess it was okay.