Fairy Tail Chapter 439 Discussion

aos10 said:
soo , next arc is basically

Fairy Tail . invading [strike]soul society[/strike] Alvarez



BTW...good job mest..why he let everyone know ? he suppose to keep his mouth shut



i feel the next arc is just to extends the length of the show , until Acnoliga's arm heals

No it's not the manga has foreshadowed this since tenuous with Mest and we all knew there was gonna be a whole arc about lumen historie since we first learned about it when gildarts became master. Plus the final battle is between zeref and Natsu Acnologia is just some guy that has to be killed first really.

KingAce261 said:


I always taught lacrima just stored magic for just power, like how we use electricity, and that anyone even non wizards can use lacrima devices because they already have magic power in them whIke other technology, like the vehicles, can only be used by wizards because they need magic power but have no larcirma in them so they need wizard to transfer their magic power in order to run. I thought this was proven true in Edolas where even though no one had magic they could use magic by storing it in lacrima to power stuff.



Yes, certainly magic tools can be used by non wizards as proven by that treasure hunter guild, but tools that are powered by wizards magic cannot be used by non wizards.

It´s similar to how in Naruto only a very small portion of people are Ninjas within a militaristic society. As far as I get it Wizards are simply at the top of the foodchain when it comes to power and because the magic council has the most power of them all there are no mages to overthrow the country or even the continent with their powers.



Shortly spoken the good guys superseed the bad guys and that´s why every conflict get´s drowned before it even becomes too large.

I've been wondering for a while if there was some significance to the Grand Magic Games arc outside of having a battle tournament, and I think there's finally a reason. It was probably to forge bonds between Fairy Tail and other guilds so Mashima could have them all team up later to fight a bigger threat.



Well... we have that bigger threat now. So I'm hoping we get to see some big guild alliance to fight back.

Jarjaxle said:
LittleRookie said:
metsujin said:
LittleRookie said:
@G Spark



If you look up "Earth Land" on the fairy tail wiki you can see the Ishgar map.



I would say it has, Zeref can teleport and Acnologia can fly at amazing speeds as a Dragon. For all we know, they probably spend more time in other continents.



Plus when Gildarts was first introduce, and said that he encountered Acnologia, Natsu was rushing to where Acnologia was last spotted by Gildarts, and Gildarts said "He might be gone, flying around the continent or world" or something like that.



Yeah i remember that, Plus Acnologia did take over the world in one timeline.Darklight0303 said:
Also for those who still think this development is out of left field. Go back and reread the fucking manga. The hints are there



G_Spark233 said:
metsujin said:
LittleRookie said:
G_Spark233 said:
This new development is sort of coming out of nowhere. Don't remember any countries other than Fiore ever get mentioned. Still finding it pretty interesting.



There were other countries mentioned, just not other continents.



Makes more sense for there to be other continents than there being none.



@Trentor, Ishgar is the continent Fiore is a country in Ishgar where there is 500 guilds total.



Yeah basically Fiore and the other named countries/kingdom that are on the Earthland map, that was known as Ishgar. And that was a continent.

I vaguely remember Ishgar getting mentioned but I think it probably has been a while.



Wondering if Zeref's influence has reached other continents or if they have people over there that have been cursed like Zeref has.



I would say...Fairy Tail will F*** them up..but seriously...I start to think that they might need Alliance of the Guilds, just like in Oracion Seis Arc, to get even close the Top people of the Arbaless.



if 1 of the War Gods of the Ishgar says that he is nothing compared to people outside of the continent...and he is one of TOP 4 of Wizard Saints...that should tell you just how freaking strong Arbaless Kingdom is.



and as for Zeref...well he is no going to be part of the Story for while...don't you remember...he and Acnologia are going to fight soon...and destroy half of the world when they do fight.



Yeah Arbaless is sure a thing.

It will be an war arc, two countrys in a battle with all they got.

But I don't fear so much about the Gods of Ishgar thing, yeah Warrod said there a lot stronger than him in other countrys, but at the same time told that even in Fiore there stronger wizards too. It's to think about Precht for example, he wasn't a wizard saint and much stronger than Warrod, even because Warrod don't know offensive spells.

Jura is one of wizard saints too and was defeated by Laxus. So my point is: okay Arbaless may be really fearsome, but Fiore and their wizards too, the strongests wizard aren't necessarily wizard saints.

So this arc has everything to be awesome!

Ragoonius said:
Dat set up tho....country sized guild...holy crap, this is going to be so awesome. So I would assume as powerful as Fairy Tail is, they're still going to need help from other guilds. Good lord, what the hell could this guild master of a country sized guild be like...



So, think Raven Tail has a shot at appearing in this arc considering how Lumen Histoire plays a heavy part in this arc will be or maybe Mashima just forgot they existed.



The only one really of any note in Raven Tail was Flare and she's with the giants now

I'll laugh and then cry a bit if this arc culminates into something like the Naruto wars.

Chapter wasn't too bad. I do remember a trivia bit where Mashima said that he had named most of the other countries around the globe randomly so he would try to stay away from them. So an arc talking about another country sorta caught me off guard there.

Will see how this arc develops though. Hopefully it ends up being enjoyable.

hello09 said:
Well,if they know about Lumen Historie,someone leaked information. The rat was probably either Precht or Ivan. Still,we don't know everything that happened in Mavis's life nor do we know the history of Abaless or whatever it's name will be. Maybe Mavis interacted with them before it became a "military run " empire.



Also,don't be delirious. Fairy tail is ending. Well,I do admit I thought Tartarus was either the semifinal or the one before that since I didn't know how Mashima could create an enemy that surpasses Tartarus besides E.N.D,Acnologia and Zeref. Well,an empire from another continent that has one time and half the number of legal guilds in Ishgar and only failed it's previous invasion because of deterrants Etherion and Face,which now are down, is quite efficient.



But well,after arcs like Sirious Island,the magic games and Tartarus,there is no way this is the middle of the manga or something like that. This is clearly the last third or so of the manga. Still,if Mashima isn't careful,this arc is gonna drag just like the magic games. At any rate,I think this arc will have 60-80 chapters.



Plus,now that I think about it,I remember reading in another forum a page from the tower of heaven arc and another from sirious island arc. The first one was Simon explaining Trinity Raven's notoriety...the second one was lahar explaining why Bluenote Stinger was a behemoth. They both mentioned a war with an western country. Maybe this is it?



Also,I have a question. Was Avatar really dealt with? Fairy tail didn't destroy it's main branch did it? This reminds me of fire emblem awakening...



FUCK,this is the game Mashima mentioned that shared his ideas for the endgame of fairy tail. After a war against a country that was known for it's dark cults,the protagonists of that game went to war against an expansive western empire that wanted the sacred treasure of the kingdom of the protagonists...and then they went to war against the cult they thought had been crippled who had used the war as a smokescreen for their activities. Then they battled against the being  the cult worshiped.



Your revelations make me also think of some things that come to mind:



Will ALL the Ten wizard saints finally making an appearance in this chapter (since there was sort of some foreshadowing)?



Could the ultimate showdown between Dragon, Immortal, and Humanity involve this upcoming arc (or foreshadow a hint)?



I too wonder how something like a foreign country (Arbaless) would know Lumen Histoire (info leaked?), while the continent (Ishgar) that Lumen Histoire resides in doesn't know.



The manga has hinted some characters actually being from a west continent like Visca, Alzack, and Beth Vanderwood from Mermaid Heel (the veggie girl).



If anyone remembers, when Gildarts was first introduced he had been taken these 100 years rank quests that personally came from Makarov (ever since Natsu, Cana, Mira, Erza, Gray, etc. were young) and always been gone for extensive amounts of times because of them. I always wonder what those quests are (something even Lucy asked).

Is it possible that maybe those quests were actually involved/connected with this Western Continent Arbaless?



In strange way, that Rave X Fairy Tail crossover also now makes more sense (feels more plausible) instead of feeling non-canonical like.

metsujin said:
LittleRookie said:
@G Spark



If you look up "Earth Land" on the fairy tail wiki you can see the Ishgar map.



I would say it has, Zeref can teleport and Acnologia can fly at amazing speeds as a Dragon. For all we know, they probably spend more time in other continents.



Plus when Gildarts was first introduce, and said that he encountered Acnologia, Natsu was rushing to where Acnologia was last spotted by Gildarts, and Gildarts said "He might be gone, flying around the continent or world" or something like that.



Yeah i remember that, Plus Acnologia did take over the world in one timeline.