Fairy Tail Chapter 310 Discussion

SadTreeButler said:
kiDnameDSkia said:


O.O

BLASPHEMY!!!

Two fish warriors, a half naked spirit that controls gravity...and a giant snake....yeah...I kinda like them a tad bit more than Lucy's. I mean, don't get me wrong, Leo and Gemini are awesome....the rest on the other hand....well I just plain prefer Yukino's selection. Most of Lucy's seem like more of a comedy routine.



If you don't take it back, I'm gonna tell Aqarius everything. GLAD NOT TO BE YOU. YEAH, WE ARE.



Anyway.

I still don't get it how are people so caught up with that 7yr time skip. Look, there are no guilds who only trained for 7 years, mages went to jobs and slacked of at the guild bar... Fairy Tail had a serious training for 3 months (ok, not. for 2 days and a time arc developed 2nd origin.) and there's nothing wierd with that. Mashima just gave Sting and Rogue even more space for them to develop, since they obviously don't have 2nd origin yet, also their Dragon force is probably useable because of the lacrimas they have, not because of real strength. Also, dragon slaying magic is stated to be a force of feelings, that is: being able to turn your anger into magic power. THAT, has been explained already since the Eisenwald arc... So yeah, get used to it (after 300 chapters, finally) that everything will revolve around it, and Natsu's strength is so bottomless he will turn into a dragon soon. ACKNOLOGIAAAA WRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



Erza didn't power up. As you may recall she didn't even twitch when Ultear brought 2nd origin to them, so she had it developed all the way like Laxus already, probably. In terms of that, they don't have any more room to upgrade their power. The only thing they can do is go with variety, like Makarov (Laxus as the next guildmaster must learn something else than just lightning, while lightning stays his primary force like Makarov's giant magic)... and so on so on so on...



It's just about tastes, the thing is you people forget to mention a few world like "TO ME" or "I find it" and try to justify everything like it's viewable only from your view. There's no objectivity in this, like Kanic said in another thread: everything can be explained.

While he then argues it is executed poorly, I can only think of it in his terms of valuation... To me, this arc is still number 1 and I enjoy almost everything about it.

That went a lot faster then I thought it would lol.  Those guys were pretty weak.  I guess it's good they didn't try and drag it out forever.

Dat new spirits and Wendy's resolve. What an epic chapter.

what was the point of them showing up lol.. i don't even remember their names





...i feel like i'm forgetting something that should be happening soon.

^ I do srsly hope Mashima has some later intent in them, because they are as individuals quite unique and well-made. It would be a waste to discard them when they haven't even been properly introduced..

Darklight0303 said:
PirateKingz said:
Okay, I knew that this was going to be a disappointing, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad. It's like Raven Tail all over again.



Overhyped opponents who are just fodder against FT's nakama power.



Nakama power? Where? Wendy is a support/healer type so no duh poison would NOT work on her.



as for Lucy and Yukino, again no nakama power just that Uosuke fed them the element required to win AKA Water. Also before that it was logical that Libra would negate the gravity effect.



Mirajane devouring the poison. Again not asspull since she does turn into a demon and as if a poison would work on a demon.



Lily well he's an iffy one. I'll concede that one might have been a bit nakama power.



Natsu had already won the moment he shattered that dude's big scythes. So again show me where the nakama power is.

You sure are supportive of FT. I'll tell you this, Hiro hyped up the enemies, then get FT to defeat them in one chapter, after a few hits, that's bad writing there, no nakama power yet though.



And that's not our misconception that we thought that the enemies are strong, because Natsu could barely dodge the axe of the armor dude, all of the sudden he was catching and holding it, anything more surreal than that?



Wendy is a healer type so poison won't work on her? She is a healer, she heals, but not immune to them. Oh and, that's not poison the flower woman feed her, that's sleeping gas, and can anyone not fall asleep after inhaling those sleeping gas? It's sleeping gas for god's sake, no cure for that.



As for Lucy and the other one, Yukino, the battle worked out way too convenient in their way, it's like Tai was made to be the weakness of them. Bad writing.



Mirajane devouring the poison, lol when was it stated that poison does not work on a demon? She is a demon, but she is still a human. -.- Let's just say that poison is not effective against a demon, but after she turned back into a human form, the poison is still inside of her, righttttttt? So she's fine with the poison inside her body?



Wendy's offensive is not to be taken as a joke, huh? She is a supportive type, who wasn't suppose to have strong offense, yet her enemy get knocked out in one hit, ohhh all the hype.



Natsu.. You don't even need me to explain on this. ->Protagonist.



Despite that, I like Natsu's quote here

Natsu Dragneel said:
The question you should be asking yourself is, are you really prepared to make Fairy Tail your enemy?

That was just.. Badass. It was just like Luffy's declaration of war for the WG during the EL arc all over again!

HikaruIzumi said:
I'm starting to think that regardless what happens in FT 70% of people are just going to rage about it. The fights against executioners started, most of people were mad that the plot was stalling. The fights ended in two chapters, most of people are mad that they weren't longer. Decide what you want and stick with it.



At some point people need to realise that there is a line between critisicm and "hating". And you also need to realise that the "haters" are not one single entity but many different personalities, meaning one likes A and dislikes B while other likes B and dislikes A, rather than your perception of "everyone hates everything". Look arround, the majority of these posts were content with this chapter. MAYBE, just maybe you are the one being overly aggresive and should not view your self as a self-appointed guardian of FT.



PS:*4 chapters, not 2.




HikaruIzumi said:


I, for one, am really satisfied with this chapter. There's no more stalling, no more "split team" setting that leads nowhere and no more fighting with characters that will never appear again and hold no importance.



For me, my "apple of discord" is exactly the fact that they were handled like that.




HikaruIzumi said:


Not to mention that we got some info about characters and their powers. For example (from the whole fight not just this chapter), we know that Mira holds back around "nakama" (and her transformations have awesome side effects), Wendy isn't affected by magic that has effect on one's condition, Lucy's spirits actually do something useful (arguably more than herself) and fishy princess is fishy.



-Lucy is a stellar mage, what else is she supposed to do? There is such thing as distinction in terms of battle-styles

-We pretty much knew as much about Wendy

-Mira's spotlight was very fake and was put there just to satisfy the hunger of mira-fanservice fans. It was without substance




HikaruIzumi said:


Did I find the chapter boring? Yes. Do I think it was pointless? No. Am I annoyed with how FT wins with a snap of fingers this arc? Yes. Was it unjustified here? No. I understand that the chapter wasn't "kick ass", "epic" or what not but it gave us some information and understanding of characters. Plus, it would be simply idiotic if they got out of there just like that. It's a prison run by the kingdom directly, they HAD to have someone dangerous there, otherwise it would be beyond stupid. That being said, I'm really happy the plot is moving on.



The understanding that it gave us was not subtancial, it was mere eyecandy to silence the rage on his twitter about characters that don't get enough attention(editors once again giving crap advice for the sake of sales). And that's exactly what truly irritates me beyond the range of "criticism". it's insulting for his readers. Was the concept of the wolves bad? No. As you said it was reasonable and I my self have pointed that out before. It's the way they are handled. Their concept was abused for the sake of fanservice(fanservice here not entirely implying nudity) and for Natsu to learn where the exit is (if that's not the definition of Deaus-Ex then I don't know what is).Villains can exist as:

1)"characters" and

2) for the sake of plot varietion



And yes I wholeheartedly aggree that the plot is moving on. I'm just saying that I wasn't mad at the existance of the wolves. They could easily prove to be a heavy plot-point.

Kanic said:



Your general view makes me glad and helps me realise that there are people who know what dialogue means. But you said:

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And:

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Despite your usage of the words"most" and such, those two alone speak to me as:

"I put all posts in the same basket". How would you interprete them?



I definitely didn't want to leave that impression, I'm sorry about that. I used the word "most" because I didn't want to generalise, so leaving the impression that I was putting all posts in the same basket was the last thing I wanted. I still don't see those two sentences (even out of context) as you do but I know now that people can interpret it that way. I'll try to chose better words next time, thanks for the heads up.



I agree with pretty much everything else you said, especially the last paragraph. TBH I wasn't really comparing her and Erza's speeches (I read too many manga and watch too many anime to remember who said what) but if it's true, then you have a point. Although, I have to say that it was still nice to see Mira do something and even nicer was that we learnt something about her abilities (regardless how it sounds, I'm not a fan of hers XD ). I simply enjoy learning more about characters and the world and I can't consider chapters that contribute to that as pointless.