Kanic said:
At some point people need to realise that there is a line between critisicm and "hating". And you also need to realise that the "haters" are not one single entity but many different personalities, meaning one likes A and dislikes B while other likes B and dislikes A, rather than your perception of "everyone hates everything". Look arround, the majority of these posts were content with this chapter. MAYBE, just maybe you are the one being overly aggresive and should not view your self as a self-appointed guardian of FT.
THAT is the reason why I avoid using the word "haters" and why I didn't use it. I also used "most" judging by what I see here. I never said everyone was angry about the same thing, I'm just saying that when "most" is angry about that and "most" is angry about this, there has to be the "some" that is angry about both. I'm really not sure why or how you saw my post as "overly aggressive" or how and why you see as "self-appointed guardian of FT". Go back few chapter threads and you'll see that I was mostly criticising FT. I never attacked anyone. It's just something I noticed over the course of several chapters that regardless what happens in FT more than half of people rage. Yes, I'm part of them sometimes, I really don't see what's wrong with that. It's not an insult, it's a fact. I just find it interesting because most of other manga, even if shit happens in them, don't have THIS much split discussion. Even if stuff that don't make sense happen in FT, people still stay for more.
Kanic said:
PS:*4 chapters, not 2.
My bad. ^_^
Kanic said:
For me, my "apple of discord" is exactly the fact that they were handled like that.
I understand that but like I mentioned in my post, having no one guard it would be much worse IMO. And even if it was just for fanservice, we DID get some info about those characters that might be useful in time. It depends how Mashima will handle it.
Kanic said:
-Lucy is a stellar mage, what else is she supposed to do? There is such thing as distinction in terms of battle-styles
-We pretty much knew as much about Wendy
-Mira's spotlight was very fake and was put there just to satisfy the hunger of mira-fanservice fans. It was without substance
You misunderstood my point. (not to mention that I meant it as a semi-joke) Lucy's job is strategy since her spirits fight for her and she handles it rather well. I was thinking of how Loki got her keys what allowed her to fight in the first place.
I didn't see it as fake, it would be fake if her being there served no purpose and the battle could have been done by someone else easily. While someone else would find a way how to fight that enemy, Mira was the best choice for her ability to breathe poison. And that's the feeling I got from this fight, like they were simply unlucky because FT got paired up with those they had advantage over. About Wendy, I must have missed when it was stated but still it at least served to show how far her resistance goes. I mean, if she can resist someone's magic who's job is murdering, that changes my view at her at least a little. That's a subjective look, so you're free to disagree. I'm just saying that it's not like this chapter did nothing to the characters.
Kanic said:
The understanding that it gave us was not subtancial, it was mere eyecandy to silence the rage on his twitter about characters that don't get enough attention(editors once again giving crap advice for the sake of sales). And that's exactly what truly irritates me beyond the range of "criticism". it's insulting for his readers. Was the concept of the wolves bad? No. As you said it was reasonable and I my self have pointed that out before. It's the way they are handled. Their concept was abused for the sake of fanservice(fanservice here not entirely implying nudity) and for Natsu to learn where the exit is (if that's not the definition of Deaus-Ex then I don't know what is).Villains can exist as:
1)"characters" and
2) for the sake of plot varietion
And yes I wholeheartedly aggree that the plot is moving on. I'm just saying that I wasn't mad at the existance of the wolves. They could easily prove to be a heavy plot-point.
I do agree that abusing villains like that is stupid, however I don't really consider them villains. They were doing their job and their loss didn't really do anything to do the story. However, the way I see it is, that their existence did a lot to the story. First of all, it would be stupid if FT just strolled out of there and second of all, I found it quite interesting to see magicians focused purely on murdering with no back doors. That's, once again, a subjective look because I enjoy it when the author explores their own world, even if it's weak, it still does something.