Fairy Tail Chapter 310 Discussion

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  • #51
Zhou said:
I wanted to say this was a classic FT chapter but boy, that sure was fast.



Mirajane's "Poison? That's merely a dessert... for a demon like me.♥" was my favorite moment, she really needs more screen time.



Is Mangastream trolling, Wendy said fucker?!



It's flicker, fLIcker.



Btw in my opinion FT was sucking with 'boss fights' from the very beginning...

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  • #52

HikaruIzumi said:


THAT is the reason why I avoid using the word ........f other manga, even if shit happens in them, don't have THIS much split discussion. Even if stuff that don't make sense happen in FT, people still stay for more.



Your general view makes me glad and helps me realise that there are people who know what dialogue means. But you said:


HikaruIzumi said:


I'm starting to think that regardless what happens in FT 70% of people are just going to rage about it.

And:


HikaruIzumi said:


Decide what you want and stick with it.





Despite your usage of the words"most" and such, those two alone speak to me as:

"I put all posts in the same basket". How would you interprete them?




HikaruIzumi said:


I understand that but like I mentioned in my post, having no one guard it would be much worse IMO. And even if it was just for fanservice, we DID get some info about those characters that might be useful in time. It depends how Mashima will handle it.



I said clearly that I aggreed with you about them existing there being a logical thing and I emphasised on the way they were handled.




HikaruIzumi said:


You misunderstood my point. (not to mention that I meant it as a semi-joke) Lucy's job is strategy since her spirits fight for her and she handles it rather well. I was thinking of how Loki got her keys what allowed her to fight in the first place.

I didn't see it as fake, it would be fake if her being there served no purpose and the battle could have been done by someone else easily. While someone else would find a way how to fight that enemy, Mira was the best choice for her ability to breathe poison. And that's the feeling I got from this fight, like they were simply unlucky because FT got paired up with those they had advantage over. About Wendy, I must have missed when it was stated but still it at least served to show how far her resistance goes. I mean, if she can resist someone's magic who's job is murdering, that changes my view at her at least a little. That's a subjective look, so you're free to disagree. I'm just saying that it's not like this chapter did nothing to the characters.



You're right, this chapter did develop them power-wise. I was refering to fake attention in terms of character. So I'm happy to aggree about Lucy and Wendy. But about Mira and her speech, it's identical to that speech of Erza when she was up against Azuma (that part about contradictions),  which is why I called it fake and intended for fanservice(again fanservice here meaning the rage about Mira getting attention).




HikaruIzumi said:


I do agree that abusing villains like that is stupid, however I don't really consider them villains. They were doing their job and their loss didn't really do anything to do the story. However, the way I see it is, that their existence did a lot to the story. First of all, it would be stupid if FT just strolled out of there and second of all, I found it quite interesting to see magicians focused purely on murdering with no back doors. That's, once again, a subjective look because I enjoy it when the author explores their own world, even if it's weak, it still does something.



Problem is he is only exploring things at a glance. He could have a whole arc centered arround these assasins. Instead we had a random split-up and a random unite. (:S)BUT there are still possibilites for them to prove useful for the plot. For example, it's obvious that FT aren't going to kill them, so their testimonies are proof enough that FT went against the kingdom (for one reason or the other) ,which stands as a good enough reason for the council to disband FT. That would be a nice way of handling them, from here on out.
 
  • #53
PirateKingz said:
Okay, I knew that this was going to be a disappointing, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad. It's like Raven Tail all over again.



Overhyped opponents who are just fodder against FT's nakama power.

I know that FT is flooded wityh nakama power, but not this match. What has these executioners done for you to expect anything from them?! From purely hype and titles?! Have you readed the last 309 chapters because those shits have never, ever worked. So try again.
 
  • #54
Liked the chapter, i would have liked the fights to last longer though. I loved my zodiac Pisces's human form - mother and child, i have never heard of Pisces representing that but i like that take on the two fish :)
 
  • #55
Combustious said:
This chapter made me consider to stop reading FT(I almost never leave something unfinished). This is getting out of hand and Mashima really does not know how to make remotely decent fights or stories



I mean, I thought the whole purpose of the 7 year time skip stuff was to create new enemies and make more possibilities. But let's see:

1. After the time skip, they realize everyone is SO much stronger

2. A few months of training + some BS magic from Ultear

3. Destroys top guild in tournament + "impossible to beat" executioners

with some 'Don't mess with FT' crap every now and then



...Really? How is this anime/manga even popular anymore?

I'm tired about arguing this 7 years skip again and again....



The 7-years gap doesn't change the standard and the limit of characters, strong characters are still strong, it just gives those characters who haven't grown up to their full potential time to develop more. Do you think that 7 years would benefit people like Makarov or Gildartz any bit? Or just staying at home for 7 years definitely doesn't make you anyone stronger.



Fairy Tail pre skip is the strongest guild, while at the same time all the members are still very young, showing that they are genius mages and their potentials still can develop more and more. They managed to fight HADES, who would be able to solo this entire tournament with a single flick, and you think that they wiping out these nowhere fodders that don't even have any notable feats BS?! LOL.
 
  • #56
Nice chapter, I wasn't expecting it to end so quick(thought it would at least take another few chapters.) Oh well! More progression towards the story and the sooner we find out why the Princess is doing what she is doing even though she doesn't seem to like it.



Lol @ last panel with Natsu telling them how to get out or be executed Yukino's expression is like "So evil and yet... Can't help but to be turned on!"

Not really, but a guy can dream!
 
  • #57
Kanic said:
At some point people need to realise that there is a line between critisicm and "hating". And you also need to realise that the "haters" are not one single entity but many different personalities, meaning one likes A and dislikes B while other likes B and dislikes A, rather than your perception of "everyone hates everything". Look arround, the majority of these posts were content with this chapter. MAYBE, just maybe you are the one being overly aggresive and should not view your self as a self-appointed guardian of FT.

THAT is the reason why I avoid using the word "haters" and why I didn't use it. I also used "most" judging by what I see here. I never said everyone was angry about the same thing, I'm just saying that when "most" is angry about that and "most" is angry about this, there has to be the "some" that is angry about both. I'm really not sure why or how you saw my post as "overly aggressive" or how and why you see as "self-appointed guardian of FT". Go back few chapter threads and you'll see that I was mostly criticising FT. I never attacked anyone. It's just something I noticed over the course of several chapters that regardless what happens in FT more than half of people rage. Yes, I'm part of them sometimes, I really don't see what's wrong with that. It's not an insult, it's a fact. I just find it interesting because most of other manga, even if shit happens in them, don't have THIS much split discussion. Even if stuff that don't make sense happen in FT, people still stay for more.



Kanic said:
PS:*4 chapters, not 2.

My bad. ^_^



Kanic said:


For me, my "apple of discord" is exactly the fact that they were handled like that.

I understand that but like I mentioned in my post, having no one guard it would be much worse IMO. And even if it was just for fanservice, we DID get some info about those characters that might be useful in time. It depends how Mashima will handle it.



Kanic said:


-Lucy is a stellar mage, what else is she supposed to do? There is such thing as distinction in terms of battle-styles

-We pretty much knew as much about Wendy

-Mira's spotlight was very fake and was put there just to satisfy the hunger of mira-fanservice fans. It was without substance

You misunderstood my point. (not to mention that I meant it as a semi-joke) Lucy's job is strategy since her spirits fight for her and she handles it rather well. I was thinking of how Loki got her keys what allowed her to fight in the first place.

I didn't see it as fake, it would be fake if her being there served no purpose and the battle could have been done by someone else easily. While someone else would find a way how to fight that enemy, Mira was the best choice for her ability to breathe poison. And that's the feeling I got from this fight, like they were simply unlucky because FT got paired up with those they had advantage over. About Wendy, I must have missed when it was stated but still it at least served to show how far her resistance goes. I mean, if she can resist someone's magic who's job is murdering, that changes my view at her at least a little. That's a subjective look, so you're free to disagree. I'm just saying that it's not like this chapter did nothing to the characters.




Kanic said:


The understanding that it gave us was not subtancial, it was mere eyecandy to silence the rage on his twitter about characters that don't get enough attention(editors once again giving crap advice for the sake of sales). And that's exactly what truly irritates me beyond the range of "criticism". it's insulting for his readers. Was the concept of the wolves bad? No. As you said it was reasonable and I my self have pointed that out before. It's the way they are handled. Their concept was abused for the sake of fanservice(fanservice here not entirely implying nudity) and for Natsu to learn where the exit is (if that's not the definition of Deaus-Ex then I don't know what is).Villains can exist as:

1)"characters" and

2) for the sake of plot varietion



And yes I wholeheartedly aggree that the plot is moving on. I'm just saying that I wasn't mad at the existance of the wolves. They could easily prove to be a heavy plot-point.

I do agree that abusing villains like that is stupid, however I don't really consider them villains. They were doing their job and their loss didn't really do anything to do the story. However, the way I see it is, that their existence did a lot to the story. First of all, it would be stupid if FT just strolled out of there and second of all, I found it quite interesting to see magicians focused purely on murdering with no back doors. That's, once again, a subjective look because I enjoy it when the author explores their own world, even if it's weak, it still does something.
 
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