The World of Otome Games is Tough For Mobs Chapter v3 epilogue +v6 Discussion

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Edit: I read parts of Vol 10 and 12, and from what I read, it does seem that their relationship is actually just platonic sisterly best friends. It seems to me that the author either just intended all this as a gag/yuri-bait/"fanservice" or just backpedaled. Regardless, it's still s*upid because there wasn't even that much romantic development. I've explained this more in detail in the newer comments under my post about this topic in the r/MobuSeka subreddit.

Regardless, still deserves the score for the yuri-gags/bait/"fanservice". Especially because one of the times it does so without providing any context immediately around said bait/gag.

[I skipped a bunch of volumes aside from 10 and 12 (and even some chapters inside them), and even then vol10 and 12 do end up showing how their love for Leon is different (Romantic, lover) than their love for each other (Platonic, sisterly best friends). And both combined also show that each of their love for Leon vastly outweighs their platonic love for each other.]

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MUST READ IF YOU CARE ABOUT YURI BAIT/GAGS + PSEUDO-ALMLOST-NTR:

(this rewiew contains light "romance" spoilers, I'd suggest reading it regardless.)

  • Context:
I continued from where manga left off (somewhere in volume 3, around the love score arc).

[also, I don't have anything against Yuri in general, please keep reading for more context]

  • What happens, and why it might piss you off:
The author loves to make Yuri gags between Angie and Livia to make fun of the MC. I read the infamous vol 6 to figure out how far it goes, but the gag turns into not just a gag but also bait to get Yuri fans and random Japanese trope of female friends being touchy feely to be used as "fanservice".

How the Yuri gag comedically starts:

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The two female lovers interests of MC (who love MC, one has confessed) end up stepping on a machine to measure love by mistake while trying to drag MC there. The machine says that "both sides have true love for each other with a score of 120". Upto that point all they have been shown as are best friends who see each other as sisters. There has been 0 reason for them to be romantically in love with each other.

I assume that their "true love" (according to the love score machine) for each other is more like sisters/best-friends/platonic because this event was obviously a gag/comedic-moment/joke.

Right after this takes place, it is used for comedic effect, which when taken alongside the events of the story before this makes it so that it only makes sense that the "true love" was their platonic love for each other, but it's never explicitly confirmed.

[though, I state again, it is obvious it was all for comedic effect. If I recall correctly, right after that both of them slap Leon and call him the worst for answering their separate confessions he loves them both after they forced him to answer. So, clearly the girls dislike and don't believe in the idea of romantically loving multiple people (plus, going by the story, both of them don't have a reason to love anyone other than Leon). The only reason they accepted it was because they're sisterly best friends who loved the same guy but neither of them wanted to lose (they were even prepared for a fair and square one girl wins fight) and they didn't want the other to hurt either (they knew that whoever lost would be devastated). Perhaps combining that with Leon's answer made it easier to accept it. VOLUME 6 SPOILER: And the only reason they accept Noelle is because of the necessity, circumstances, and for Leon's sake].

Oh also, hearing Angie say something roughly along the lines of "When I found out (via the machine) that I loved Livia" or something like that was funny AF, even though it's also sad best girl is being made to say this cuz of the author's s*upid actions thus far. Of course, since this was used comedically and given the story before this moment, I'm certain the "true love"/"love" is Platonic as sisterly best friends.

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Yuri bait + Pseudo-NTR/Pseudo-Almost-NTR + Japanese authors' weird idea of female-friends-being-touchy-feely "Fanservice":

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Angie "Leaned forward and pressed her lips on Livia's lips" after reconciling/making-up from the fighting about MC getting another girl in the harem and how to handle her. I assume it's more of a weird but platonic "we made up with each other so we're back to being on good terms"/reconciliatory peck on the lips (with platonic feelings).

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THIS IS AFTER THEY FORCE/DECEIVE THE MC INTO MARRYING THEM! (Even after both having slapped him for saying he loves both of them when confronted on his reply to their confessions) [AND They knew MC acted insecure and hurt the first time the Yuri gag was brought up (which is why it was brought up for comedic effect) during the love score arc]. Perhaps another way to look at it could also be taken as evidence of their feelings being platonic in even in these gag/bait moments because they love Leon too much to risk hurting him or putting him off (and they're not the type to manipulate/deceive the MC and just do things behind his back).

Also, I heard somewhere (might be a silver lining or the opposite) but of course still used as something to continue the Yuri bait/gag/joke:

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the MC gets a 3rd fiancee who at some point asks Angie (and Livia?) that if they love each other so much, why don't they leave the MC. This question supposedly makes Angie become angry. (I'd assume because her love for Livia is platonic and Leon is not only the only person she loves romantically but also there's no one she loves as much or more than Leon. The last part is also evidenced from the fact that even after the first Yuri-gag I mentioned here (love score) the girls corner Leon to find out which of them Leon likes (and get angry when he says both and then both proceed to slap him).

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Some fake "hints":

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Livia often sleeps in the same room as Angie (and they're both only in their underwear when the sleep). In fact, MC's third fiancee even mentions that they saw Olivia's personal effects in Angie's room. Which is fine I guess because they're best friends and like sisters (and living in the same house, even if they have separate rooms of their own), so it can be easily considered platonic. Yet some people like to bring this up as "proof" / "hints", so I thought I should at least mention them.

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All of this, however, will piss off anyone not interested in Yuri (even in trace quantities or as bait, gags, or "fanservice") especially given that they have had no romantic developments with the MC from their engagement to MC until vol 6. (Especially given that the author never really clarifies anything).

  • It doesn't even make sense:
Also, the Yuri gags/bait doesn't make any sense because there's no reason for the two fMCs to fall in romantic love with each other. In fact, the "love score machine" even surprised the girls themselves. They were like sisters and best friends. In fact, every Yuri gag/bait/"fanservice" comes out of the left field/as a surprise. There's always no reason for those moments. I hate it because my respect for my favorite character (Angie) dropped because of these moments [especially the "Leaned forward and pressed her lips on Livia's lips" after having made up from their previous fight, which ironically was about the MC potentially getting another girl and had no romantic moments with the MC before this. Though there's a good chance that it was a weird but platonic peck on lips that's a Japanese author's idea of "fanservice"/bait. The artist definitely makes that scene more on the "fanservice"/bait side but could be their faces are flushed/blushing from stress and anxiety of them having fought and strained friendship with their sisterly best friend (each other) and/or from the jealousy of the MC getting another girl].

(Olivia has always been more of a blankslate character with no personality of her own, perhaps because she's supposed to be the player character.)

  • What makes it worse: (character assassination)
It's made even more disappointing because their love for MC is clear (and proven by actions to be more than the love they have for each other, which I assume their love is platonic) yet, the author is using them for the Yuri gags/bait and ruining their character/image/personalities in the process. (Not like Olivia had much of a personality except being Yandere)

  • What makes it even worse: (the girls are supposed to know MC is insecure about this) :
It's also made worse by the fact that the MC was at one point insecure of this love score incident (the two girls know this because he ran away and ignored them) and he considered leaving them alone. In fact, they even slapped the MC when he said he loved both of them and called him the worst (when they forced him to answer their confessions). So, if the author makes them do this Yuri bait behind his back, it certainly looks like cheating/NTR and makes one think of the saying "practice what you preach, you psycho".

As such, the author kinda/almost makes them cheaters for bait/gags. (Since that diverges from their personalities, it is possible to look at this as further evidence that even all these bait/gags were done with platonic feelings and intentions.)

  • The author never even fully commits to this because he doesn't want to lose too much of his audience, yet makes indirect references to these gags or new indirect/light gags every now and then in the story:
Furthermore, the author is non-committal about it, and just keeps bringing these gags and bait randomly without any sense of prior atmosphere. That's pretty much why I can tell/assume/speculate that it's a gag, but even then it's going too far. The story had a target audience (when it comes to romance/harem), but the author clearly cut off a big chunk of that audience with this sh*t move.

  • What I'd have rather had:
Honestly, I'd rather have had Leon end up with only Angie than having to deal with this bait/gag every now and then!
 
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