Villainess Is Changing Her Role to a Brocon Chapter 246 Discussion

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Mashiro-chan:

If you find out about the kind of lives the brother and sister went through, it'd be completely understandable how they developed the brother and sister complex.

Exactly. It's crystal clear that because the brother was pretty much abandoned by his mother, and the sister likewise by her father, Alexei in large part fills the paternal gap for Ekaterina, and Ekaterina provides to some extent the maternal nurturing he never had from his mother (they ARE full blood siblings going back at least to their grandparents, which makes the way Alexandre and Alexandra treated them even more heinous, though the damage Anastasia did to them was more out of blindness and foolishness rather than the sociopathic charm or malice of her husband and mother-in-law).

Mama Cayna:

The word brocon sounds a bit ridiculous but after I read it I realized the reason brocon and siscon is quite logical.

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I mean the MC before reincarnating in the otome world, she did like the older brother character of villainess but after reincarnating into villainess, she gets memories of how bleak their family's past was. The MC's own background is a noble woman with the rank of a duke but for years she and her mother were under house arrest and bullied by her grandmother just because her grandmother hated the background of the MC's mother who was not from an elite aristocrat. Her mother and MC didn't even get to meet her father and her older brother until her mother dead. Her mother only got to see her son once before she died. Practically in this kind of environment MC and her older brother become lonely because of the lack of attention and affection from their parents. Her older brother feels guilty for not being able to help his mother. Practically his younger sister became a means of atonement for sins by giving his attention and affection to atone for his sins.

However, after the MC got his memory before reincarnating, the MC became very concerned about her older brother and even behaved like as a mother The brother and younger sister finally care for each other and fill the empty space in their hearts to find the meaning of life as a family.

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Ditto.

Now, we've had spoilers on this thread that Spoiler

the dragon will romance Ekaterina, and she will turn him down because she doesn't want to want to leave her brother all alone with no one else to turn to.

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anyaforger:

The story is more avoid death flags turns world building as a family, with brotherly sprinkles in between. Not much romantic interest options for MC, seems like 2 as of 167 chapters in.

Well...

Frankly, I have some serious doubts about that. If this was still an otome game, I believe this would have a hidden route that neither sibling has a clue about (or at least they are not reading the clues correctly) --and neither does anyone else in their entourage. I have my suspicion that there's a girl who has been in love with Alexei ever since she was a child, and in her own way might be secretly plotting to take down the Yurimagnas from the inside. The royal family has no clue either, and vaguely thinks that Alexei should reach out to take down the wall that's grown up between himself and the Yurimagna heir and enter into cooperation, and that the Yurimagna kid sister has possibilities of becoming a good noble and future marriage candidate (I think the royals are repeating their blunder on being blind to the siblings' and their mother's real situation in Alexandre's and Alexandra's none-too-tender hands, and if anyone out there thinks the royals' evaluation of the current situation with the Yurimagnas is correct, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you). If my hunch about Alexei's childhood friend is right, wouldn't it be interesting if we had some plot twists like this secret love of Alexei's discovering to her horror that her father is planning to do away with the Yurinova siblings, and Spoiler

the dragon character ended up intervening somehow (I've already suggested in a review of one chapter that he ought to be realizing that having the Yurinovas prevail would be far greater benefit to his own interests than the Yurimagnas prevailing)

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Ellz:

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It just ticked me off on how people changed their behavior once ekaterina "saved" them from a monster then learnt abt flora's saint attribute. Well hello? Where have yall been?

And just like any other naive main character, ekaterina was happy with it 🤦‍🤦‍ yea sure.

Modern 30 years old woman. Ok 👌

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Well frankly, I beg to differ. This reminds me of an article in one of those magazines with articles full of helpful hints for writers, and one woman told of her experience in which she set up a scenario of a workplace boss who somehow had a manner which tended to make people dislike him, and her intended direction with her story was to change his co-workers' attitude toward him, but the author just couldn't figure out a way to do that. Spoiler

Then her husband suggested, why not do it by having her character perform a heroic act?

Really, I don't know a more economical and vivid method of changing people's minds about your character. And really, I don't think the setup in this story was a bad one. Face it, harassment is an unpleasant reality in many educational institutions, and it should be obvious that their classmates must have been well aware of the harassment Flora Czerny and Ekaterina Yurinova were receiving from the Yes Trio, but all too typically in these school situations it seems easier for others to stand back and not get involved. As for the prince intervening to keep the Yurimagna heir from also harassing Flora and Ekaterina, maybe there were others who knew and maybe no one did know, but even if others did know, they likely figured, he's the prince and he can do what he wants without consequence, but why should I take the risk of helping a mere baroness and another girl who's only here because she's from a ducal family but doesn't have the upbringing of an aristocrat and is likely too physically and mentally broken to be of use to anybody?

Until Ekaterina and Flora risked their very lives against a terrifying demon to save their classmates (and this time Ekaterina can't trot out her usual I'm-just-a-fraud-in-denigration-of-her-own-self-worth

thoughts this time because she quickly realizes that facing a demon on a smartphone screen was nothing like being face-to-face with an enormous roaring demon in real life, far worse than the golden retrievers which frightened her corporate s*ave side in her former life--yet Ekaterina still stood her ground because she realized the demon would kill many people on campus and nothing would stop it from destroying the empire itself unless someone fought it). No wonder their classmates felt guilty and apologized. And yes, when Ekaterina finally got fed up with the Yes Trio and stood up to them, that is the sort of thing that tends to impress a group and get them to follow you. I remember reading an account of a doctor who was attending a training workshop, and after the facilitator had given a presentation at length, she took a break and asked someone in the audience if she wanted to partake of the tempting donuts and pastries in the back--and she was too nervous to do anything but say no. And the speaker kept going down the line in the audience, and growing pressure of constant "nos" made it even harder to head for the refreshments table--until the doctor answered, yes, I believe I will have some. So he got up--and got engulfed in a stampede of women who kept him from reaching the table for about 15 minutes.

[collapse] Believe me, the author understands how group dynamics works in real life, particularly in a school environment.
 
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