The Hero Took Everything from Me, So I Partied with the Hero’s Mother! Chapter 216 Discussion

Edit: I took out one star, both because the story became more boring, but also there is a bit more context that I found.

First, most people that became interested in this novel likely came from the manga release. Do remember, however, that as a novel, there are no pictures, and by that I mean that, overall, the enjoyment is more limited because of the type of story this is.

This story is, overall, not of good quality, but it has a bunch of scenes. However, after checking other works by the author, I was surprised by what I found: Over 40 written stories, and many of them with the same start, hell, some of them even shared names for the characters.

I took one randomly, and it was the same start, MC gets booted out of the Hero party, but he doesn't care and is ok with that, then he goes back to his village to find his true love, in this random case I got, it was a broken onee-san type who lost her family long ago and has been used and ab*sed all her life by her relatives, including the current guardian called Zektor (Yup, it's the same name as the Hero's father in this one), who sells her (but in a similar fashion, he actually cared for MC, but it's too complicated to explain here, but accepted the transaction).

I stopped reading there, I checked the summary for some of the other stories, and it was mostly the same, just a different type of older heroine.

In short, this story is basically the author throwing the same base into different developments until one stickied, which was the case for this one that got a manga.

Why is that relevant? Because in short, there is no "plot" besides that.

In this story, we have now 2 arcs:

The 1st one is with Celes, and I would say it's reasonable.

The MC is booted out, but it doesn't take long for Hero party to miss his presence, at the same time, MC rescues the Hero's mother, marries with her, then returns to village towards the others.

I do also like that the relationships with the villagers are not thrown out of the way, like, the uncle who sold his wife to s*avery, as terrible as that is, is still the uncle who he had good times with, so MC rescues him from his predicament, and even gives him a gift, one that could become a "curse" if he does bad things again though.

It may sound petty, but this "gray" area is realistic and quite unusual in novels, this is for me one of the good points of this story. The plot actually makes the Hero party reform to some extent, in a good way, while producing obstacles to MC to improve himself as a person...

Until midway, when he literally becomes the most important person of the world, and all problems are resolved, so what happens from there on? MC is now super OP, revered, worshiped and all the stuff, so the rest of his story is his slow life with his wives, now making the best character to be the Hero who is redeeming himself.

Then comes the 2nd part, with Ceres' son (I will not mention the other parent, since that would be the spoiler that can't be predicted.), and this part is what I meant with the author throwing the different flavors of the same thing until one stickied.

It's like the analogy of the dog running after a car, and then it finally catches it... Now what? What can it do against this movable super heavy metal cage? So yeah, he got a story that tracked attention (he got a manga), but there is no more plot besides "Gary Stu and my adventures in this convenient world made for myself by myself"

In short, the story, as generic as it can be, is quite enjoyable until midway of the 1st Arc, after that it drags itself around, but can hold up to some extent, but after this... Although there are some funny moments

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(The "sister" gets a letter, who warns her: "no in*est with your brother, if you do, we will make you disappear", or assassins go after one of MC's waifus exactly when she is "melting" down (Good reasons for that, but it's gory, and the same happened to his other previous waifus), so the assassins return with that horrific images in their head and assume her as dead, and MC as a dangerous maniac.) ,

[collapse] everything becomes kinda dumber, too convenient, and any problem that could be interesting is resolved through OPness or fanaticism towards MC. (And I'm not against OPness in a character, but if they stagnate a protagonist, that's a problem.)

There is basically no character growth anymore, or worse, it's basically a Simpson taking lessons from Simpdad: Do not take these lessons to real life, or you are in for many smacks.

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Here are some Meta points to be aware:

• The author made a couple full short announcements as "numbered chapters". So chapter 216 for the translator is chapter 219 in the raws (Why would he make announcements as numbered chapters? That's how bad this author can be.).
• The 2nd Arc in the raws restarted the counter back to 1, the fantranslator however just kept going with the value.

------- Down below my original review of the first arc -------

I wouldn't put it as the best novel in the world, but it is enjoyable... Although a bit of a self-insert in many aspects.

The world in this novel is one where women become considered "ugly" as they get old. I would say it's a bit of non-sense that a child wouldn't love their own mother because of her physical appearance, but to some extent, that's how it is here. You can take it as "a world where only MC likes MILFs and everyone else is the opposite".

MC is a reincarnated person in the Hero party, he is an orphan, and unlike his childhood friends who are the Hero, the Sword Saint, the Saintess and the Safe, he is just a Magic Swordsman. In his former life he was an accomplished person with a wife and a daughter, so he is mature and has his own preferences, and ends up seeing his female childhood friends as daughters rather than as wife material. They are all living in a remote village with nothing much happening around them.

However, he has no cheats (supposedly), although he does seem to be very strong, he is not invincible... Although this goes get subverted later on and he becomes a self-insert OP protagonist...

If you are considering reading this for the plot or for the character development... I think you won't find much of that in the MC here, however the other characters have a bit more.

In the village, instead of being sent to s*avery or being abandoned, the other villagers took care of him, specially the parents of his friends. As a Child, he was already showed interest in their mothers, but they always just took it as either a child wanting some motherly affection, since he didn't had his own, or as the ramblings of a child saying things they will forget in the future.

The Hero party is made of these 5 childhood friends, and the Hero, who has grandiose plans, asks the MC, who is his best friend, . to leave the party in good faith. There are 3 girls in the party, the tomboy and the self-important are with the Hero, and the smart one, who was the one closest to MC, ended up cozing with the Hero too. But the MC is ok with that, since he was never attracted to any of them, although towards the sage, he had promised that, if she never met anyone in the future, he would marry her. Thus he leaves as an accomplished S Class Adventurer out of the Hero Party.

Of course, it doesn't take long for the incomplete party to have problems without MC, finding difficulties in battles that were supposed to be easy, so they decide to find him and ask him to return, since he is their childhood friend, he would understand and come back, they hope.

I think this is one of the best parts of the story not in regards to how scummy their visions were, but the development that they come to realize. It's important to remember that MC is isekai'd, so he is mature and had no s*xual interest in the girls in the first place, but acted as a mature person towards the 4.

Here is a bit about the quartet with a bit of spoiler to how things change on them. I didn't add much detail, and I couldn't remember most of the things properly (my memory is mixing up with other similar novels), so I kept it vague for now.

Spoiler

The Hero became c*cky with the idea of marrying a princess if he defeats the Demon King, then he would be come King and become rich. It started with him wanting to monopolize everyone, specially after he noticed that his childhood friends, with whom he had affections with, were, after all, just village girls, and comparing them with the noble girls he met like the Princess made them look really bad, so the Hero notices that his friendship with MC was more important, and if he asked for the 3 girls, he would gladly give them. It may seem scummy, but I understand it as a brat starting to realize things differently.

Later on he gets tr*shed badly, saved, and having lost his chances of defeating the Demon King, thus all that dream has no end, he decides to restart from scratch, this time, actually becoming a good person. He doesn't even feel jealous of MC's harem, rather, he notices that having a harem is a really bad deal for the man.

The Sword Saint girl is a tomboy, and always was closer with the boys and their hobbies, and in that regard, so she liked some fights and being active, in matters of training, she was closer with the Magic Swordsman than the Hero, but in matters of personality, she thought of MC as boring. Her parents always expected her to marry MC, and constantly pestered her about that, so when she got into her rebellious phase, she did the opposite. After the events that almost got her dead, she came to realize her mistakes, and after coming in terms with her feelings, she founds herself attracted with MC... However her mother is in the way now.

The Saintess girl actually liked MC first, even her father, that she hates, would suggest her to marry MC as a good man, however, logically speaking, she wanted to leave the village, so she knew she didn't need to chose someone from the village itself, in short, she didn't want to be a nobody, so with the Hero approaching her a lot, she considered him to be a batter deal than MC, but after the proposal that he could marry the princess, she became deluded, after all, if Noble Girls are to join in the marriage, at best she would be Number 3, and she didn't like it. But with the events of them failing and almost dying, she ended up wanting to return to the person she originally liked... But he has her mother, and doesn't seem interested in her at all.

The Sage girl was the less popular one, and she was the one most interested in the Hero, so when he approached her, she was happy. She too liked the MC, but more as a brother, someone who always ended up helping her, or that she could talk with for a long time, in fact, MC had promised her that, if she hadn't met a partner to marry in the future, he would take care of her, but after she went with the Hero, that deal was off, and she understand that amongst the Trio, she is the one that likely hurt MC the most. Having realized her mistakes however, she now has to face her mother.

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And then, you have the harem, which is formed in a... Complicated way. The 1st had been sold as a s*ave, and the other 3... Their husbands left them, so they went with MC... I guess this is a way of seeing the events. However, it's important to see that, to MC, even these husbands were the cool uncles he had in the past, so he still has some good will for them.

The situation is described at first in a scummy way, but later on it's revealed that it wasn't, so it has some spoiler.

Spoiler

The Hero's mother was sold as a s*ave by the father, which were not well seen in the village. Because he was the father of the hero, he got some free money from the state, ended up gambling and doing other shit, eventually getting imprisoned himself.

MC would later save him from that fate, and he would become a reformed man... Although MC still got some revenge on the Hero for it: He got a young s*ave from a race that is very yandere in regards to jealousy, so if he cheats, he is doomed.

The Sword Saint's mother is a bit of a tomboy herself, and the husband is the owner of the village's restaurant, and very much into cooking, so the young MC with his new ideas for cooking was like a younger brother (MC calls them as nii-san and nee-san). However, as the world rule estipulates, he is not attracted with his wife anymore, and they sleep in separate bedrooms. MC did not want to NTR his older brother, but he willingly gave his wife away saying he didn't need her anymore.

MC would later give him a s*ave wife of a young former maid specialized in cooking, someone that would clearly be better than him at cooking, and so he would realize that he was only able to achieve his success thanks to the management abilities of his former wife. But at the same time, MC wanted him to have someone to share his hobbies and be happy.

The Saintess' father is the self-proclaimed smartest person in the village. He likes to study, he likes knowledge, and he likes books. He is an introvert of sorts, but because of that, he had a very good relationship with MC who was smart. His daughter hates him, but he doesn't bother with her either. Of course, this exclusive interest in knowledge means that he didn't care about his wife either.

MC would later give him a s*ave wife of a condemned Noble's Daughter (villainess), so the self-proclaimed would face the real deal, this was a way to find a good match both as a friend, but also as a bit of a revenge against the saintess, since she would have to face her father and another girl of same age as her stepmother.

The Sage's father is a warrior of sorts, one that is about being fierce and strong, however, in the end, he is just a villager. He too lost interest in his wife, and just gave her away to MC without thinking much.

MC later would give him a s*ave wife of a young and rough mercenary that would be rought against him if he messed up, but again, this is something he knew the man liked, and expected them to be a good match.

It may sound scummy, but it's later revealed that the 3 parents expected MC to get on with their daughters, but after hearing the story and realizing that would be impossible after the betrayal, they wanted to help him in their own way, so although they themselves wer

n't really interested in their wives, they did know that MC was interested from early on, but they too took it as children's stuff, and never took it seriously. They decided that maybe now what he was looking for was mothers, so they made it easy for him to take them away.

They are also aware of what MC expected them to see from the s*ave wives they got, but they are fine with it, and consider it just a way their adopted son/younger brother is doing to care for them as a way to improve themselves

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So, yeah, the characters may look scummy, but they are not really all like that, and the ones who are do redeem themselves.

Now, as I mentioned, although MC starts as a Strong to Stronger character, he eventually does become Overpowered.

Spoiler

The Goddess is revealed to have great expectations of him, and this is why she didn't make him none of the special jobs, because she didn't want him to have the faults of other former heroes, nor the attention of the demons, and instead gave him the next best thing.

MC eventually dies against an absurd enemy and reincarnates as a Dragon (almost divine entity) that is described as "The Dragon of Luck", in short, he is capable of bending causality in a passive manner to anything convenient for himself. Thus he defeats the invincible Demon that nobody could kill... This got him connections with the Kingdom (Marriage with the widowed 1st princess [MILF]), the church (Marriage with the former Saintess), with the Empire (Marriage with their 1st princess [ (]Former Sword Saint]), and the Underworld Dragon God (The strongest of all gods).

His feats and other events cause him to evolve even further into godhood besides he finds out he is immortal (He can leave the Underworld if he ever dies and come back).

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TLDR;

Take this as a casual read if you are in the mood for some simple self-insert milf harem. Do not expect a good plot, nor much stability, it's like an amateur writing a story on the fly, so he has to make things up as it progresses.

There are no politics in the story, all the parts that exist are simplified and dumbed down for convenience. This is not a smart story, it's a dumb story.