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Jujutsushi Wa Yuusha Ni Narenai Chapter 71 Discussion

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Edited: I've read a bit further.

This novel is entertaining for the most part. As many others have said, it takes a realistic look at another world tropes and I read somewhere else that the author wanted to deconstruct the whole uber-perfect-hero with harem trope. Essentially trolling another world + harem + perfect hero + plot armor genres. Much of this is evident in the story and much of it works, but the story is not without its flaws:

Pros

    • The Main Character (hereafter referred to as MC) is smart, cunning and tactical. (Your mileage may vary on this)
    • The MC side of the story is intense, engaging and keeps you interested in what will happen next.
    • The MC is at the bottom of the barrel, but not in the sense that you get tired of self-loathing. While there is some depreciation of the self to some degree, it is not overwhelming. The MC overrides this with his own tactics and actions which propel him forward.
    • The plot premise is interesting.
    • Character development. Especially watching Futabo Meiko go from scared and useless to OP and pretty much an uber tank and guardian of the MC.
Cons

    • So far the plot has some unanswered internal questions which could develop into plot holes. This isn't really a con, but a concern. As you can see, as of writing this I'm on chapter 47 of Act 5 (I've lightly skimmed up to chapter 50ish). I understand this has been officially updated by the original author to somewhere around chapter 111-112ish. Still, I have sort of spoiled myself to some degree so the issues I bring up, I don't think they've been addressed.
        • First, the whole situation has not been questioned by anyone. Yes, I get it that they are in a survival situation and are focused on that, but there have been times when the characters have the opportunity to consider their situation. Spoiler

          I'm talking about the whole situation with the Kingdom telling them everything at the beginning, then dishing out information at certain intervals and at certain times between people. Pitting them against each other and then there are the deities who seem to give them power, but seem to be entertaining themselves with their plight. I see this manifested a lot in Runhilde, who on the surface seems to be developing a relationship with the MC, but then again their interactions give a lot away in the regard that Runhilde could give the MC more practical skills, but chooses not to for the sake of watching how MC would react to situations as the weakling that he is. Edited to add: This thing with Runhilde is further driven home since Runhilde says these words to MC about being happy about his growth. He says it again when he finally gives MC an attack skill. End Edit. This strikes me as both the Kingdom and the deities using this situation to their advantage. Speaking of the Kingdom, I started to wonder if this was some sort of training stage. They summon a massive amount of people from a world into a dungeon and those that reach the Kingdom are considered the ones who passed the test and can be utilized in whatever way the Kingdom needs.

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    • MC suffers from some cliches that plague Asian fiction and it sometimes hurts and otherwise cunning and realistic MC.
        • While he is in tune with his obvious attractions to the heroine, he is dense to her obvious attraction to him. Even when she puts herself in danger on his behalf. I'm not entirely sure what he chalks this up to, but so far his inner monologues have not made him aware of this fact. Thus, this causes him to fail to inform her of pivotal information sometimes which could have avoided other issues. Spoiler

          Such as the requirements to construct a new Mud Doll, which would've come in handy had Meiko knew about them and could've stood guard to keep the ultra-self-righteous girls at bay.

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        • Some say he's a beta JP male. I beg to differ. While he's not initially overly assertive or even in groups outright forceful with is views, he's not breaking his back, bowing down in apologies when dealing with people. He picks his battles and given his lack of offensive and OP skills, he takes the tactical route rather than the brute force route. That's what Meiko is for. She's his brute force. I get that some may not like that and want a male MC to be the one who always delivers the physical force, but I think it works. MC is active and does things and has a goal as much as any goal he can have with the information given to him. This isn't necessarily a con, that he's not the physical type, but I can see how that would be a turn off for some people.
    • The author seems to enjoy dragging things along.
        • The MC is a prime example of this issue. Everyone around him has useful skills that could be considered OP when compared to the MC. While he struggles and claws his way through confrontations, which is the obvious point, but his leveling up is still minuscule and while he does grow in other areas as a character... given the situation that they're in then his weak abilities do start to get irritating. No, I'm not saying he should jump from weak to uber overpowered in a flash, but it would be nice to have seen him get a few attack skills way back in chapter 20 or 30ish which could've been considered useful.Spoiler

          Even the non-combatant girl they eventually meet up with has useful skills in and out of combat. The author tries to have the characters claim she can't use her in-combat-defensive skills because they could cause collateral damage, but the problem with that is she doesn't even try, nor does her teammates even consider thinking of a way for her to use them. Had she been in the MC's team, he would've probably thought of a way for her to use them. The point in all this is that she has what could be considered a defense/attack skill as opposed to the MC's "curses."

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          If I recall correctly, he doesn't get an attack skill until chapter 60, and it's still a relatively weak one. Of course, as I said, Runhilde gives him weak skills so that MC can use his wit and come up with ways to use them. So it's only as strong as MC puts time into making it be strong. Long story short, he has to use another skill to make his attack skill stronger. That skill requires him to take time to make the ingredient stronger to make his new attack skill more potent.

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        • I usually don't have a problem with different points of view, but some of these points of view are pointless and serve to drag the story longer. For example, I really didn't care about the two girls. The only point it serves was to show the depravity of one of MC's nemeses.
        • I would prefer the dungeon situation not to be the entire story. So far it seems like it may be the entire story or at least take-up far more than half of the story. Given the situation so far I would be interested in seeing how these characters interact with their world outside the dungeon and have the question answered about why they were pulled into this world, the aforementioned question about the Kingdom's true intentions as well as the motives of the deities.
Beyond these issues, I consider it an entertaining story thus far.
 
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