xxxHOLiC Chapter 201 Discussion

  • #2
Watanuki is going to die before Himawari and Doumeki but will he learn to accept it?
 
  • #3
Chimasternmay said:
all will be clear in time. aka lets just wait for ch 202... Have to say the same at this point. Holic really likes to get my brain working more then anything else, I never fully comprehend it.
 
  • #4
all will be clear in time. aka lets just wait for ch 202...
 
  • #5
So the girl is immortal (or at least has a huge lifespan) like Kimihiro and also spends her life waiting for someone, like he is waiting for Yuuko. I'm not sure if I understood correctly, but the girl is waiting for someone to live with and that one is Jorougumo?

Well, seems like the spider lady will be two timing immortal (or at least have a huge lifespan) beings.

By the way, she might not have eaten a mermaid but ate Mokou's guts instead.
 
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Watanuki Receiving the pearl and woke up.  The spider woman is behind the screen!  Black Mokona said wine please! Because she's here.  lol



He led her into his room, besides the pearl is in his hand.  The spider woman knows that it's from that girl's tear.  She asked what did he think about.  He said she was the human who ate mermaid's meat.   She said that's correct.  She mentioned Yaobikeni's word.  



" " will eventually die, but will live longer than anyone else.  (I didn't get who would be like that.  At first I thought it was Watanuki)  She would never make pearl again since that human lived long.  She knew that she was hit.  That girl promised the spider woman that she would be careful when people are there.  If the scar is not cured, the hurtness saves.



Watanuki was about to ask something, and she cut his neck with her long nail and got the blood from her tongue.  Even though the scar stays, one day it will cure like Yaobikeni, if he became stronger.  But he doesn't need it?  Even without it, he can still "see".  Or like "them"



When she was going to kiss him, he said he doesn't know, but if he is or isn't, he want the power to be useful.  She asked that's why he continued the shop?  He said probably yes.  Even if it's not the correct decision, he doesn't want to be regrettable for what he chose.  He told her to be with "that person" and use the pearl to cure him/her.  He mentioned about what the girl said when she gave him the pearl.  "You are like me"  She said that's because he, like the girl, won't age.  Watanuki said he thought it's not just that.  "that person is waiting even if he/she is hurt.  She asked what?  For the girl's case, it's the person beside her.  



He said it's her choice, then she got the pearl.  She said he became not so cute.  Watanuki sadly smiled.
 
  • #7
Wo wo wo.... What a convo huh.... Never expected it... LOL Mokona you nevr change... Mugetsu as well!! XD...But hey they had to do it ne? Dunno what they really mean... I didn't get it fully... but I do understand something...



Watanuki is becoming less and less human... and he's sadly leaving Himawari and Doumeki behind... As he's becoming less human, he's becoming more powerful... the Jorougumo is certain.. as we are as well... since Watanuki can finally enter and exit his dreamworld transportation method



As for the mermaid part... that was really interesting.. Let's ignore it might be gross, something impossible.... but what about if we take it into another scope and push the religious motif to the maximum... Maybe... not maybe... the little fact of eating a mermaid is a penitential sin.. a sin that condemns you to Hell... Like the Living Hell that girl was living... and now that I look at her and to Jorou... they look alike... are they related?



Watanuki's relationship with Jorougumo is indeed weird... but hey that's what makes it interesting... and more than romantic.. it's like sexual... erotic... Jorougumo is a pure erotic sentient being... No wonder why Watanuki's and Jorou's auras mesh into a weird atmosphere....  Jorou is so seeeexy... I wanna a girlfriend like her...



Signs,

Green
 
  • #8
So... Watanuki's life will be much longer thn a regular human. Will this be ok for Watanuki?



Waiting for chaptr 202.
 
  • #9
I really love the odd relationship and interactions between Spider-Lady and Watanuki. I don't mean in a truly romantic sense or anything like that, but I find it interesting o_o



The eating-mermaid-flesh thing creeped me out, but I searched 'Yaobikuni' up on Google and found the Japanese legends about it.



Apparently, "the carcass of the mermaid for Japanese people is almost equivalent to a bone fragment of Jesus Christ to Christians ... there is even a monument of a Buddhist nun called Yaobikuni (八百比丘尼) at the Kuinji Buddhist Temple in Fukui Prefecture, who lived 800 years after eating the flesh of a mermaid in Japan. Even today, many Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples enshrine the remains of mermaids as religious deities to be worshipped by their faithful followers. This religion of mermaid is widely recognized as Ningyo-shinkou in Japan."



I then realized that in X, Kotori's mother Saya appeared to her in a vision as a mermaid.  Here's the dialogue:



KOTORI

A fish...?  A mermaid...?

Mo... ther.... Mother!

Mother, I'm so glad to see you!  You are here!



KOTORI

I've been looking forever for you.  I was lonely because I couldn't see

you.

Why are you here, Mother?  Why are you a mermaid?



SAYA

... because I was a sinful woman....



KOTORI

Sin....



SAYA

For the sake of the person whom I loved, I... I married without love...



KOTORI

Love?



SAYA

I felt that I could die for the person I loved... so I married into the Togakushi Shrine.



KOTORI

Mother... what are you talking about....?

Also, in the X Tarot set, Saya is The Fool and appears as a mermaid-like humanoid. On Wikipedia:



The conventional explanations say that The Fool signifies the flesh, the sensitive life, and by a peculiar satire its subsidiary name was at one time The Alchemist, as depicting folly at the most insensate stage. When The Fool appears in a spread, he would be a signal to strip down to the irreducible core, and interrogate whether the Querant's self-vision is obscured. It may also be a warning that significant change is coming.



Another interpretation of the card is that of taking action where the circumstances are unknown, confronting one's fears, taking risks, and so on.

On aecletic.net:



In standing for the Querent, the Fool represents a time of newness, a time when life has been "re-started" as it were. The person feels that they are back at zero. Far from being sad or frustrating, the Querent feels remarkably *free*, light hearted and refreshed, as if being given a second chance. They feel young and energized.



In addition, they likely have no idea where they're going or what they're going to do. But that doesn't matter. For the Fool, the most important thing is to just go out and enjoy the world. To see what there is to see and delight in all of it.



As a card, the Fool ultimately stands for a new start. There's more than just change, renewal, and a brand new beginning in the Fool, there's also movement, a fresh, exciting new time.

Maybe it means something, maybe it's related to the story in xxxHoLic. I don't know. Just wanted to throw that out there.



All in all, I really liked this chapter :3
 
  • #10
Zell182 said:
Watanuki is going to die before Himawari and Doumeki but will he learn to accept it?



Actually its the other way around.
 
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