Air Gear Chapter 357 Discussion
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- #77
- This is the first series I've read whose creator brutally spited me and essentially took a shit in my mouth. There was absolutely no point in introducing Kururu as a romantic interest, developing her and Ikki's adorably intimate relationship for 200+ chapters, for it all to culminate to a bullshit scenario where Kururu becomes incapacitated right before the long-awaited tuning session with Ikki.
"And would you look at that? Ringo just happens to be nearby and available as a tuner when this happens. Totally a coincidence by the way. I'm a genius!" - Oh! great, probably
I am so tired of the "childhood friend trope character" always winning the romantic battle for the male protagonist regardless of the situation, even if the pairing does not make sense. Throughout the series Ikki regularly expresses his romantic disinterest for Ringo, and it was always clear that Ikki's "love" for Simca was superficial and akin to merely turning your head to check out a sexy woman you see on the street. On the other hand, Ikki and Kururu's romance was so profound for both parties that it was symbiotic. Before Kururu met Ikki she was an extreme introvert who denied her own talents. She even held Ikki at a distance until her time spent with him in the hospital revealed his true non-goofball self, which is a very charismatic and kind-hearted person. Ikki and Kururu even begin to notice how much they have in common, and later in the series characters who openly start shipping the two of them include Kururu's own father, the United States president, and a notable amount of people in Ikki's circle of friends. Remember the scene where Ikki punched through a car windshield to protect Kururu from a potential kidnapper? Remember when Ikki, an orphan, had a tear-filled emotional breakdown when he was betrayed by his surrogate brother, Sora? At that time, Kururu loved Ikki so much that she lessened his pain by embracing him and crying with him. I know this comment seems like the venting of a rabid shipper, but if Oh! great always planned to have Ringo effortlessly dismiss all romantic competition and win Ikki's heart simply because she is the "childhood friend trope character" I would've much rather preferred if he did not play with the readers' emotions and just assign Ikki a generic female tuner after the Behemoth arc. Oh! great even had the audacity to have Kururu tell Ikki that she merely "respects" him (she later confides with her tuner friends that she actually loves him).
- Ikki eventually became so skilled that normal ATs actually hindered his "run" because they couldn't perform well enough to keep up. Yet Oh! great still waited until the series was basically over to give Ikki a Regalia that wouldn't be immediately stolen. Whatever, man.
- Like others have said, the series went from believable motorized skates to questionable exaggerations of scientific phenomena as an excuse to give characters the typical "supernatural anime powers". Air Gear definitely goes downhill after a certain point in the second half of the series. Eventually characters start throwing tornadoes and walls of air at each other and paralyzing their enemies with "vibrations in the air", so the reader will have no choice but to roll their eyes and suspend disbelief. And don't even get me started on the sheer amount of asspulls the antagonists in Air Gear have. It puts even Naruto Shippuden to shame.
- Too much philosophical fluff and moral-pushing. I constantly felt like this manga was trying to brainwash me. I understand hormonal teens read your work but I don't like hidden agendas in my mangas, Oh! great. The words "wings" and "sky" are sprinkled in every characters' dialogue like salt and pepper, but they are too ambiguous to mean anything but are given as explanations when something confusing happens. It's arguably the worst in the earlier chapters, where Simca is being overly cryptic in everything she says and there is no way for the reader to comprehend any of it until the story behind the "Tower" is explained like 200+ chapters later.
- So some otaku can just commit actual terrorism in Kyoto with a 100-foot tall mecha, and there is no armed government response? Not to mention you wouldn't be able to build something that large without getting attention from the authorities. Again, while reading Air Gear you will have to suspend disbelief to a degree that is ridiculous even by anime/manga standards.
- No one dies in this manga. Blood is like ketchup, and having your head turned 180 degrees will not kill you because the humans in Air Gear are apparently owls. Your body was impaled by a helicopter blade? Walk it off. Your body was torn to shreds by an air cannon? Just get cybernetic implants. God, I hate Shonen series.
- Ikki and Dr. Minami share the same family name, yet their relationship is never explained in-depth. It was also strongly hinted that Ikki is one of his experiments, but this is also never explained.
- Ringo is boring, Rika is an arrogant shit, and Simca is a emotionally damaged woman (think Asuka from NGE) who secretly likes hanging around abusive psychopaths. Kururu and Ikki's relationship is the highlight of this manga, and Oh! great ruined it. Perfect end for a terrible series.
tl;dr The story started out excellent, but devolved into ERMAGERD THE WORLD IS AT STAKE Shonen trife. Same thing happened to Bleach and Naruto. Only read Air Gear for the anime tiddies. Heed this warning.
- #78
I finished reading all 37 volumes of Air Gear a few minutes ago. I read three volumes a day so it took me 2 weeks. I want to share my gripes with this series. Here I go:
- This is the first series I've read whose creator brutally spited me and essentially took a shit in my mouth. There was absolutely no point in introducing Kururu as a romantic interest, developing her and Ikki's adorably intimate relationship for 200+ chapters, for it all to culminate to a bullshit scenario where Kururu becomes incapacitated right before the long-awaited tuning session with Ikki.
"And would you look at that? Ringo just happens to be nearby and available as a tuner when this happens. Totally a coincidence by the way. I'm a genius!" - Oh! great, probably
I am so tired of the "childhood friend trope character" always winning the romantic battle for the male protagonist regardless of the situation, even if the pairing does not make sense. Throughout the series Ikki regularly expresses his romantic disinterest for Ringo, and it was always clear that Ikki's "love" for Simca was superficial and akin to merely turning your head to check out a sexy woman you see on the street. On the other hand, Ikki and Kururu's romance was so profound for both parties that it was symbiotic. Before Kururu met Ikki she was an extreme introvert who denied her own talents. She even held Ikki at a distance until her time spent with him in the hospital revealed his true non-goofball self, which is a very charismatic and kind-hearted person. Ikki and Kururu even begin to notice how much they have in common, and later in the series characters who openly start shipping the two of them include Kururu's own father, the United States president, and a notable amount of people in Ikki's circle of friends. Remember the scene where Ikki punched through a car windshield to protect Kururu from a potential kidnapper? Remember when Ikki, an orphan, had a tear-filled emotional breakdown when he was betrayed by his surrogate brother, Sora? At that time, Kururu loved Ikki so much that she lessened his pain by embracing him and crying with him. I know this comment seems like the venting of a rabid shipper, but if Oh! great always planned to have Ringo effortlessly dismiss all romantic competition and win Ikki's heart simply because she is the "childhood friend trope character" I would've much rather preferred if he did not play with the readers' emotions and just assign Ikki a generic female tuner after the Behemoth arc. Oh! great even had the audacity to have Kururu tell Ikki that she merely "respects" him (she later confides with her tuner friends that she actually loves him).
- Ikki eventually became so skilled that normal ATs actually hindered his "run" because they couldn't perform well enough to keep up. Yet Oh! great still waited until the series was basically over to give Ikki a Regalia that wouldn't be immediately stolen. Whatever, man.
- Like others have said, the series went from believable motorized skates to questionable exaggerations of scientific phenomena as an excuse to give characters the typical "supernatural anime powers". Air Gear definitely goes downhill after a certain point in the second half of the series. Eventually characters start throwing tornadoes and walls of air at each other and paralyzing their enemies with "vibrations in the air", so the reader will have no choice but to roll their eyes and suspend disbelief. And don't even get me started on the sheer amount of asspulls the antagonists in Air Gear have. It puts even Naruto Shippuden to shame.
- Too much philosophical fluff and moral-pushing. I constantly felt like this manga was trying to brainwash me. I understand hormonal teens read your work but I don't like hidden agendas in my mangas, Oh! great. The words "wings" and "sky" are sprinkled in every characters' dialogue like salt and pepper, but they are too ambiguous to mean anything but are given as explanations when something confusing happens. It's arguably the worst in the earlier chapters, where Simca is being overly cryptic in everything she says and there is no way for the reader to comprehend any of it until the story behind the "Tower" is explained like 200+ chapters later.
- So some otaku can just commit actual terrorism in Kyoto with a 100-foot tall mecha, and there is no armed government response? Not to mention you wouldn't be able to build something that large without getting attention from the authorities. Again, while reading Air Gear you will have to suspend disbelief to a degree that is ridiculous even by anime/manga standards.
- No one dies in this manga. Blood is like ketchup, and having your head turned 180 degrees will not kill you because the humans in Air Gear are apparently owls. Your body was impaled by a helicopter blade? Walk it off. Your body was torn to shreds by an air cannon? Just get cybernetic implants. God, I hate Shonen series.
- Ikki and Dr. Minami share the same family name, yet their relationship is never explained in-depth. It was also strongly hinted that Ikki is one of his experiments, but this is also never explained.
- Ringo is boring, Rika is an arrogant shit, and Simca is a emotionally damaged woman (think Asuka from NGE) who secretly likes hanging around abusive psychopaths. Kururu and Ikki's relationship is the highlight of this manga, and Oh! great ruined it. Perfect end for a terrible series.
tl;dr The story started out excellent, but devolved into ERMAGERD THE WORLD IS AT STAKE Shonen trife. Same thing happened to Bleach and Naruto. Only read Air Gear for the anime tiddies. Heed this warning.
Kind of glad I read this honestly. Yes, the last fight was kind of anticlimatic and not the best way to close the so anticipated fight with Sora (but honestly after a few manga I've just accepted wrapping up a story is honestly kind of hard to do, so I don't really let that bother me, I don't really get the "if the ending is shit, it's all shit" ideology most people have, if I had a nice time with most of it I'm obviously scoring it based on the average score I gave most of it) so i kind of get why people are not that happy with it, but what I'm seeing the most is people complaining about the whole dark turn the manga took after the anime ended, like dropping the sport element and going into a more shounen let's make AT's into weapons kind of deal. I honestly checked this anime first from an AMV from the OVA and I was really intrigued by the action, then I watched all 24 eps and realized that...it's not really action but a sports anime. Then I read the wikia and realized it has a lot of shit like that but later in the manga; which I honestly liked quite a lot, so kind of surprised people are complaining about the more than half the manga for the direction it took while also continuing reading it even thought they clearly didn't like it stopped just being a sports anime...then again it's totally something weebs do anyway.
So yeah I'm quoting you for a lot of nice points you gave there, like how the sky and air shit got so annoying after being mentioned so many times omg. Then there's a lot of weird stuff with the whole God fight and talent and the stupid 99%...one would think Nike really should have had a good reason to be such a piece of shit...so maybe Sora was on to something, nope his reasoning was kind of moronic. I just enjoyed the other fights more honestly, like the Orca fight, or the Nue scenes, his design was one of the best imo, that AT armor. AND FINALLY THE KURURU SHIT, I loved Kururu so much, I was so happy to see this cute and pure girl, that got into the spotlight little by little, and wasn't in loved with Ikki from first sight like some shoujo shit like that other hoe whose name I won't google cause I really hated her so much and I can't believe she got redeemed. So yeah, really nasty what OhGreat did to her, I even fucking mistook the 26th volume of ringo and ikki for kururu and ikki and was like "it was pretty obvious ngl" AND IT WASN'T PRETTY OBVIOUS, what the fuck...I really liked her, her design is really cute, she is always there for Ikki and is pretty funny and liked most of her scenes but ofc we got Ringo instead...ugh
Also yeah, kind of weird we didn't see the whole Minami name bs, I guess it was one of those things they hint and address later but in this case never got to. I liked Aeon a lot, I'm just mentioning him cause I remember reading it was one of OhGreat's favorites, and the reason why he was always recurring in the manga lmao. I didn't have a problem with him for that, I didn't mind him reviving...or being a robot and staying dead I guess? not sure about that. I did however dislike Kazu quite a lot, it was hilarious reading v1 and seeing Kazu and Onigiri's designs like they were honestly not going to amount to anything, they were just some background characters lmao, like the fox dude was just as likely as being a teammate than them. Kazu's design was kind of cool sometimes, and it was funny to see people bully him for being the Nobody Boy but that's about it, I didn't like that much focus on him since I didn't care for him that much. I LOVED THE SMELL KEEPER THO. It was so funny, to see him being able to power up to this god pig in the most random moments, truly not someone you want to face if you are female. Agito and Ikki were amazing as well too, although Agito was obviously better, can't get enough of his english insults either, and I liked Ikki's egocentric attitude too.
It obviously had it's problems but I think it was a fun ride, I'm giving it a high 8 probably
- #79
I finished reading all 37 volumes of Air Gear a few minutes ago. I read three volumes a day so it took me 2 weeks. I want to share my gripes with this series. Here I go:
- This is the first series I've read whose creator brutally spited me and essentially took a shit in my mouth. There was absolutely no point in introducing Kururu as a romantic interest, developing her and Ikki's adorably intimate relationship for 200+ chapters, for it all to culminate to a bullshit scenario where Kururu becomes incapacitated right before the long-awaited tuning session with Ikki.
"And would you look at that? Ringo just happens to be nearby and available as a tuner when this happens. Totally a coincidence by the way. I'm a genius!" - Oh! great, probably
I am so tired of the "childhood friend trope character" always winning the romantic battle for the male protagonist regardless of the situation, even if the pairing does not make sense. Throughout the series Ikki regularly expresses his romantic disinterest for Ringo, and it was always clear that Ikki's "love" for Simca was superficial and akin to merely turning your head to check out a sexy woman you see on the street. On the other hand, Ikki and Kururu's romance was so profound for both parties that it was symbiotic. Before Kururu met Ikki she was an extreme introvert who denied her own talents. She even held Ikki at a distance until her time spent with him in the hospital revealed his true non-goofball self, which is a very charismatic and kind-hearted person. Ikki and Kururu even begin to notice how much they have in common, and later in the series characters who openly start shipping the two of them include Kururu's own father, the United States president, and a notable amount of people in Ikki's circle of friends. Remember the scene where Ikki punched through a car windshield to protect Kururu from a potential kidnapper? Remember when Ikki, an orphan, had a tear-filled emotional breakdown when he was betrayed by his surrogate brother, Sora? At that time, Kururu loved Ikki so much that she lessened his pain by embracing him and crying with him. I know this comment seems like the venting of a rabid shipper, but if Oh! great always planned to have Ringo effortlessly dismiss all romantic competition and win Ikki's heart simply because she is the "childhood friend trope character" I would've much rather preferred if he did not play with the readers' emotions and just assign Ikki a generic female tuner after the Behemoth arc. Oh! great even had the audacity to have Kururu tell Ikki that she merely "respects" him (she later confides with her tuner friends that she actually loves him).
- Ikki eventually became so skilled that normal ATs actually hindered his "run" because they couldn't perform well enough to keep up. Yet Oh! great still waited until the series was basically over to give Ikki a Regalia that wouldn't be immediately stolen. Whatever, man.
- Like others have said, the series went from believable motorized skates to questionable exaggerations of scientific phenomena as an excuse to give characters the typical "supernatural anime powers". Air Gear definitely goes downhill after a certain point in the second half of the series. Eventually characters start throwing tornadoes and walls of air at each other and paralyzing their enemies with "vibrations in the air", so the reader will have no choice but to roll their eyes and suspend disbelief. And don't even get me started on the sheer amount of asspulls the antagonists in Air Gear have. It puts even Naruto Shippuden to shame.
- Too much philosophical fluff and moral-pushing. I constantly felt like this manga was trying to brainwash me. I understand hormonal teens read your work but I don't like hidden agendas in my mangas, Oh! great. The words "wings" and "sky" are sprinkled in every characters' dialogue like salt and pepper, but they are too ambiguous to mean anything but are given as explanations when something confusing happens. It's arguably the worst in the earlier chapters, where Simca is being overly cryptic in everything she says and there is no way for the reader to comprehend any of it until the story behind the "Tower" is explained like 200+ chapters later.
- So some otaku can just commit actual terrorism in Kyoto with a 100-foot tall mecha, and there is no armed government response? Not to mention you wouldn't be able to build something that large without getting attention from the authorities. Again, while reading Air Gear you will have to suspend disbelief to a degree that is ridiculous even by anime/manga standards.
- No one dies in this manga. Blood is like ketchup, and having your head turned 180 degrees will not kill you because the humans in Air Gear are apparently owls. Your body was impaled by a helicopter blade? Walk it off. Your body was torn to shreds by an air cannon? Just get cybernetic implants. God, I hate Shonen series.
- Ikki and Dr. Minami share the same family name, yet their relationship is never explained in-depth. It was also strongly hinted that Ikki is one of his experiments, but this is also never explained.
- Ringo is boring, Rika is an arrogant shit, and Simca is a emotionally damaged woman (think Asuka from NGE) who secretly likes hanging around abusive psychopaths. Kururu and Ikki's relationship is the highlight of this manga, and Oh! great ruined it. Perfect end for a terrible series.
tl;dr The story started out excellent, but devolved into ERMAGERD THE WORLD IS AT STAKE Shonen trife. Same thing happened to Bleach and Naruto. Only read Air Gear for the anime tiddies. Heed this warning.
I know it's been years since you posted this, but uh. that sucks. Can you tell me what was the chapter Ikki chose Ringo as his tuner instead of Kururu? I'm currently on Vol. 14 and I'm loving this series,I wanna know so that I can read Air Gear and immediately drop it when I get to that chapter.
