Fairy Tail Chapter 483 Discussion

G_Spark233 said:
metsujin said:
G_Spark233 said:
metsujin said:
G_Spark233 said:
One shots were everywhere in this chapter.



Erza's mother is here?



So when you say 'one-shot' I get it in Neinheart's case (sorta will try to explain why based on what you answer) but the rest... not really? I mean to me a one shot is something like what Natsu did to the Avatar scrubs and Bluenote, right? Can we agree on that? But fighting someone than using a 'powerful' attack to finish your enemy is categorized as a one-shot? Regardless if said move/attack is BS or not.

It's not really "finishing off" your enemy if they haven't taken any damage in the first place.



But in the case of the 'historia of corpses' you can't really harm them as inflicting injuries and such, they just disappear. Neinheart is a different story, he's just another cocky villain.

They looked like they were completely uninjured but it could just be because Jellal too down Neinhart immediately as they all used their big moves at the exact same time.



Agreed, but going back to the 'one-shot' thing, I saw a lot of people using this term in this arc... which to me seemed ridiculous, because the fights followed the basic Fairy Tail formula... Let me explain what I think a 'one-shot' is first using some examples, Natsu fighting Bluenote, that is a 'one-shot' he used a single attack to defeat him, same with the Avatar scrubs, same thing happened. Now moving to the fights in this arc, both sides inflicted injuries to one another, right? Let's say Laxus vs. Wahl, they battled a little, both took some damage (Laxus more), than Laxus pulls that attack and wins. See where I'm getting at?

Well if Erza will defeat Eileen(I have a feeling it's her mom) then Eileen will pass her powers to her daughter. Just like Silver did. And maybe Jellal will defeat her. Like Gruvia's case. Gray doesn't want to kill Silver so Silver says to Juvia that she needs to defeat Keys and technically kill Silver. If Erza gets too emotional to kill her mother then Jellal will somehow defeat her and hug Erza's boobs xD.

tr1ckst3r said:
GokuSSJG said:
tr1ckst3r said:
I wouldn't expect anything good when it comes to FT fight at this point, you should've realize that FT power level has gone awry, nothing makes sense anymore and will never be



I think one reason why Hiro keep Brandish with FT team is because he didn't knew how FT member can defeat her properly since Brandish can practically wipe the whole island in an instant.



The God Serena is weak joke is also pretty amusing, he is far from weak, he is just unfortunate that he is on the bad guy side, if he were with FT team, he will goes all 'I'll protect my Continent and it's people' and manage to gave Acnologia a few scratch, that just how FT power scaling work,  Hiro will always makes FT team stronger than their enemy no matter how strong thay are even if its didn't makes sense.



Especially now that the so called strongest Spriggan gonna make their appearance, I'm expecting a lot of nakama power bulshit in the upcoming fight tbh.

Gildarts fought Acnologia.oh he didn't fought him he got rekt before he knew what happened.Oh, let's not forget how Makarov hold Acnologia alone with his barehand back at Tenryojima.

Considering how Gildarts got one shotted by Acnologia 'off screen' and how Makarov can hold him at Tenroujima, it's safe to assume that the already fodder Makarov > Gildarts, thats mean Gildarts, FT strongest magician is weaker than an even more fodder Makarov that only capable of fighting fodder at Tartaros Arc.

So I didn't see any point of Gildarts existences at this point.

Makarov is very powerful.don't underestimated him.he just has some health issues.I'm just responding to your "FT team stronger than their enemy".their strongest member got rekt.going by our logic,Makarov should be stronger than Hades and yet he got rekt by him.Zeref<<<<<Acnologia,Makarov>>>>Hades(because Makarov managed to hold Acnologia),Zeref>Hades.we all know that Makarov>>>>Hades is not true.Power Levels are bullshit.

tr1ckst3r said:
GokuSSJG said:
tr1ckst3r said:
GokuSSJG said:
tr1ckst3r said:
I wouldn't expect anything good when it comes to FT fight at this point, you should've realize that FT power level has gone awry, nothing makes sense anymore and will never be



I think one reason why Hiro keep Brandish with FT team is because he didn't knew how FT member can defeat her properly since Brandish can practically wipe the whole island in an instant.



The God Serena is weak joke is also pretty amusing, he is far from weak, he is just unfortunate that he is on the bad guy side, if he were with FT team, he will goes all 'I'll protect my Continent and it's people' and manage to gave Acnologia a few scratch, that just how FT power scaling work,  Hiro will always makes FT team stronger than their enemy no matter how strong thay are even if its didn't makes sense.



Especially now that the so called strongest Spriggan gonna make their appearance, I'm expecting a lot of nakama power bulshit in the upcoming fight tbh.

Gildarts fought Acnologia.oh he didn't fought him he got rekt before he knew what happened.Oh, let's not forget how Makarov hold Acnologia alone with his barehand back at Tenryojima.

Considering how Gildarts got one shotted by Acnologia 'off screen' and how Makarov can hold him at Tenroujima, it's safe to assume that the already fodder Makarov > Gildarts, thats mean Gildarts, FT strongest magician is weaker than an even more fodder Makarov that only capable of fighting fodder at Tartaros Arc.

So I didn't see any point of Gildarts existences at this point.

Makarov is very powerful.don't underestimated him.he just has some health issues.I'm just responding to your "FT team stronger than their enemy".their strongest member got rekt.going by our logic,Makarov should be stronger than Hades and yet he got rekt by him.Zeref<<<<<Acnologia,Makarov>>>>Hades(because Makarov managed to hold Acnologia),Zeref>Hades.we all know that Makarov>>>>Hades is not true.Power Levels are bullshit.He had some health issue? News to me tbh.

Nope, Makarov > Gildarts and God Serena. The fact that Makarov lost to Hades only mean that Hades > Makarov, but Natsu beat Hades so Natsu > Hades, and because Hades > Makarov > Gildarts and God Serena, Then Natsu would be, Natsu > Gildarts and God Serena and since God Serena defeat 4 Ishgar King easily than Natsu power pevel would be Natsu > Hades > Makarov > Gildarts/ God Serena > 4 King of Ishgar.



Confused? So do I.

my head is spinning.everyone were shocked and afraid of Brandish's magic power which was even higher than Makarovs.I think this indicates how powerful Makarov is.I wouldn't put Hades that high.I mean,Laxus was going to to toe with him even without going all out.he lost so that Natsu can take the glory.God Serena should be above Natsu.heck,God Serena should be above Gildarts and Laxus.

xso111 said:
Rex_Connor said:
xso111 said:
Rex_Connor said:
xso111 said:
frostmourn said:
xso111 said:
okay, so let me get this straight..... jellal's mere AURA alone's capable of changing the whole atmosphere even in the skies on the horizon?.....skies in the horizon are ranging from several km..... and he oneshotted a freaking spriggan with nothing other than his day to day casual spells(grandchariot is not even considered his ultimate spells)

Which is why this is a bad chapter. Jellal one shotted Neinhart with one of his weakest attacks, no matter how powerful this guy has become its still lame

because he's just that strong in this timeskip







It's not because it's that strong, it's because Neinhart is a complete fodder in durability.high mp provides high durability.... That was addressed already in tenrou arc



High MP doesn't provide high durability. Lol.

It means nothing when you can't prove with actual durability feats, something Neinhart lacked and hide to cower behind Simon for a reason. He was pathetic, and in turn made Jellal pathetic.



why don't you try reading tenrou arc again..... erza focused her MP to become a glass cannon...... grey's comment of laxus when he took hades' blast without his MP...... Gildarts screaming in pain after being hit by bluenote when Azuma uprooted the tree which removed his MP.....



Show me Neinhart's durability feats, then you can talk.

Looks like Hiro was playing Star Ocean when he thought of the design...

GokuSSJG said:
I'm afraid that Laxus will be in a big trouble.Acnologia only targets Dragon Slayers.Laxus is near Acnologia and he is already greatly weakened by his fights against Wahl and Hades.



Dont worry, Laxus  (as well as any prominent member of the guild) has infinite plot armor.

tr1ckst3r said:
GokuSSJG said:
tr1ckst3r said:
I wouldn't expect anything good when it comes to FT fight at this point, you should've realize that FT power level has gone awry, nothing makes sense anymore and will never be



I think one reason why Hiro keep Brandish with FT team is because he didn't knew how FT member can defeat her properly since Brandish can practically wipe the whole island in an instant.



The God Serena is weak joke is also pretty amusing, he is far from weak, he is just unfortunate that he is on the bad guy side, if he were with FT team, he will goes all 'I'll protect my Continent and it's people' and manage to gave Acnologia a few scratch, that just how FT power scaling work,  Hiro will always makes FT team stronger than their enemy no matter how strong thay are even if its didn't makes sense.



Especially now that the so called strongest Spriggan gonna make their appearance, I'm expecting a lot of nakama power bulshit in the upcoming fight tbh.

Gildarts fought Acnologia.oh he didn't fought him he got rekt before he knew what happened.Oh, let's not forget how Makarov hold Acnologia alone with his barehand back at Tenryojima.

Considering how Gildarts got one shotted by Acnologia 'off screen' and how Makarov can hold him at Tenroujima, it's safe to assume that the already fodder Makarov > Gildarts, thats mean Gildarts, FT strongest magician is weaker than an even more fodder Makarov that only capable of fighting fodder at Tartaros Arc.

So I didn't see any point of Gildarts existences at this point.

Well Gildarts also said that Acnologia wasn't using the same power he used when they 'fought', and it was merely toying with the Fairy Tail members.