Vampire Knight Chapter 85 Discussion

VampireLord said:
i was hoping to see what happened with Rima and Shiki >.< ...

anyway it's good now that they know Kaname's motive....



What was it with Rima and Shiki? I don't remember:\



Anyways, I liked this chapter, I feel sorry for Ichijou though..I think he really loved Sara, and I think Sara also did but for some reason she didn't want to show it. I'm curious to see what Yuki will do in the next chapter, and what will happen with Kaname and that Hooded Woman.Will we learn her name?What? I also want Kaien to take action as the legendary vampire hunter.

Ok, I'm getting used to being confused about what's going on where but why are there only plot relevant characters? 3 vampires are fighting in hunters association and no one does anything until it's plot relevant? Why do all people that stop being plot relevant just disappear into thin air? I feel like the story is getting lost in itself. The only 2 things that actually happened in the last 2 chapters is that Sara died and we learned why Kaname wants to kill purebloods. Maybe it's just me but I feel like the author is killing every interesting idea she has. Sara's death came out of nowhere, the activation of the Parent was completely unnecessary in retrospect and it was pointlessly made to be something VERY important but then it died within a few pages. And WTF Yuuki's animals are butterflies? Seriously? Is she going to dress all pink and make ridiculous poses too? The author REALLY isn't made for long manga. This would have been MUCH better if it got a conclusion pre-timeskip.

i don't think kaname is completely evil...sure he has a reason for doing everything .but he is doing it the hard way.previous chapters and what sara said make me thinking.but treating yuki that way made her stronger than .before ,she was weepy ,week and all that .and i think he is doing all that for the sake of yuki i mean after killing all purebloods,maybe kaname will sacriefice himself to turn yuki into a human for good... sara is dead she deserved it anyway ,but why ichijou is always on the other side.first Rido then sara! Maybe she was controlling him but sure he had some feeling for her

Matsuri hino should make things more exiting again...not just yuki hunting kaname we get it! I like that zero didn't want to kill kaname

AnnaVk said:




What was it with Rima and Shiki? I don't remember:

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Shiki was following Takuma to the Association place didn't he take those tablets? he still needs Yuuki's blood since those tablets makes vampires insane....



anaaga said:
The short revival of the ancestor was just anticlimactic. Giving her such a short appearance makes the whole idea feels forced, as if they're using her as a last resort to finish the conflict.





yeah i think it was meaningless to awaken and then just go away cuz of a few words from Kaname....

Arurie said:
Ugh, so much Yume referencing in this chapter.

Kaname's supposed to have a horrible ending to his life already!

That's the only thing that will redeem what this manga has become.

Seriously, Zero deserves to just be happy by now.



YOU'RE SO SO SO SO SO SO SO RIGHT I AGREE 10000000% WITH YOU!

That's the fighting spirit. Go YUUKI :D

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Sara asking for Ichijou sempai's help.  Kaname was able to calm the Ore by telling the woman with hood he would do what she wants.  Seem like Zero's going to work with Yuuki to stop everything.

The short revival of the ancestor was just anticlimactic. Giving her such a short appearance makes the whole idea feels forced, as if they're using her as a last resort to finish the conflict.



I like how Kaname appeared behind Ichijou without saying anything though. A silent "I do need you." Zero was pretty nice too.



Except with the whole Parent thing, it was an all right chapter

Why everything is sooo confusing? I miss old chaps when everything  was interesting and not soo complicated

Yes HikaruIzumi and MarcusCorvinus I agree this would have been stronger if it was not dragged out into a long manga.    I thought the ancestress coming back was cool, but you're right that happened too fast, we should have seen Kaname with her more.

But now we see that Kaname was been working on the ancestress' plan all this time.   And Yuuki and Zero are fighting side by side again which I like.    I think the author is trying to undo some of the mistakes she made with the manga but it's a bit too late.    I still love this manga but the whole time before she went away with Kaname and the time skip was SO much stronger and better written and plotted out, but I think she is seeing her way back with this finally and it HAS improved a lot in the last 5 chapters or so.   I am really liking it again like I didn't for about a year in the middle.     

For me, I'm glad I have stuck with it and still enjoy it.  

Ugh, so much Yume referencing in this chapter.

Kaname's supposed to have a horrible ending to his life already!

That's the only thing that will redeem what this manga has become.

Seriously, Zero deserves to just be happy by now.

SARA IS DEAD! I did think she also like Ichijou but never dare to show it. Somehow, I'm curious of what Ichijou will do. Looks like he's having his revenge? Oh gosh, now I want Kaname to live A HORRIBLE LIFE. He's stupidly annoying for me right now. Damn for the parent revival. It happened so fast and ended so fast. I hope the author will end it now. It is dragging really, really long.