Vinland Saga Chapter 83 Discussion

Poor Thorfinn is still haunted by the past.

Thorfinn is becoming a much better character lol

Beautiful chapter.

koreye said:
connecting slavery and war, commentary on Nordic society, reflections on the main characters past and his guilt...finally his motive, redemption.  All touched upon nicely, and a 32 page chapter to boot.



Thorfinn's guilt would probably be viewed by some as naive and unfitting for 'action' manga character, but I find it very convincing, and quite realistic. More interesting is the reason for thorfinn's toil as a slave, building and growing wheat, the whole justification for "farming", its not merely because he is a slave, he need not be a slave. We all know how easy it would be for him to escape this life, but he chooses to be a slave and work his ass off, and find a place where he can live in peace; something that not many readers seem to appreciate, especially people thirsting for violence, and wanting things to happen for entertainments sake only.



Personally i am not crazy about simply seeing violence and fighting but i am a little put off if we end up with big preaches all the time about peace and love. I don't want to read the story of Jesus from now on.

Although seeing as Thorfinn was a very weak character before and the manga was pulled by Askeladd when it was full of violence i can see why the author had to build a whole different environment and try to change Thorfinn cause as he was he wouldn't have the ability to pull the manga.

connecting slavery and war, commentary on Nordic society, reflections on the main characters past and his guilt...finally his motive, redemption.  All touched upon nicely, and a 32 page chapter to boot.



Thorfinn's guilt would probably be viewed by some as naive and unfitting for 'action' manga character, but I find it very convincing, and quite realistic. More interesting is the reason for thorfinn's toil as a slave, building and growing wheat, the whole justification for "farming", its not merely because he is a slave, he need not be a slave. We all know how easy it would be for him to escape this life, but he chooses to be a slave and work his ass off, and find a place where he can live in peace; something that not many readers seem to appreciate, especially people thirsting for violence, and wanting things to happen for entertainments sake only.

loskierek said:
Wow seems like thorfin won't stay silent now , that there is hope . Will they be the ones to explore greenland ? or maybe they will reach America o.o . I wonder if iceland was explored already by 11th century o.0 it's not far from nords so it is possibility that they are talking about it..... however one thing tht interest me is whether all of them will escape ...



Vinland is the part of America discovered by Leif Eriksson around year 1000. The plot of the manga was obvious from the very beginning. Also, you should remember that Thorfinn comes from Iceland so it's obvious it was already explored. That without saying that all the plot is based on Nordic sagas and all the characters are real.

Looks like Farmland Saga is ending and we're finally going to the Vinland.



I think this was a great arc.



Pros:



Major character development for Thorfinn.

Einar is awesome. A excellent co-star.

Canute "growing the beard" in more ways than one.

Respect the wheat.

A lot of bad asses established in this arc.

Which is good since the old ones have died off.

Great build up

The action is short and sweet



Cons



We wait so long for the action and then it's over in a heart beat

Arneis and her family felt a bit like plot device

Chill arc not very intense until the end.

Not really a bad thing but the prologue gets the blood pumping

and some might see Farmland Saga as a let down or something.



I hope in the next arc we see



1. Thorfinn maturing into a great leader



2. Einar becoming the bad ass sidekick



3. A potential new awesome female character  
Thorfinn's wife Gudrid. From what I hear she is one tough cookie.



4. More of Canute's empire and how it affects Europe



5. The Christianization of Europe and how it affects everyone.

Omg...so he turned into a poor version of his father. Don't get me wrong. I liked Thors, but

Thorfinn on the other hand is nothing more than a simple replacement for something we already had in this story.

Thorfinn is starting to get on my nerves yo

thorfinn and einar always have the best dialogues

Good chapter, can't wait for the new ones!



Lindle said:
This story is about quite a bit more than just vikings. Granted, the action in the earlier arcs was top-notch and it's easy to see how much of a cocktease the current arc is to some people, but if you think the Viking violence was the whole point then you're clearly missing the big picture.



Agreed.

Wow. Best chapter we've had in a while.



PirateKingz said:
Great story but I'm wishing for more action. I thought this manga was about vikings. A better name for it would be Farmland Saga...

This story is about quite a bit more than just vikings. Granted, the action in the earlier arcs was top-notch and it's easy to see how much of a cocktease the current arc is to some people, but if you think the Viking violence was the whole point then you're clearly missing the big picture.